Relinquished Chaos - Piper

Ive always liked Relinquished a lot, but everyone said "i never see it run this days". Here is how I like to use it. I would like more comments/suggestions as well.

Deck Type: Chaos

Deck image:

MARCH 2012:

September 2011:

Trunk deck: (I would add this card but i don't have space)
1-2x Lava Golem
1x Pot of Avarice
2x forbidden lance
2x Meklord emperor Wisel
1x Mind control
2x PoD
1x Trecherous Trap hole
1x Tyrant's temper

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Lava golem, get rid of pesky monsters, take control with relinquished

Barricade wrote:Lava golem, get rid of pesky monsters, take control with relinquished

Added to Trunk..
Which 1 to dump to maining or siding Lava Golem? also give me reason

you have 6 monsters to stop OTK with, 1 gorz, 3 fader, 2 trago.

I would say take out one of the trago or faders, just because you have enough. Im not sure if thats enough to convince you, cause thats just an opinion of mine

Barricade wrote:you have 6 monsters to stop OTK with, 1 gorz, 3 fader, 2 trago.
I would say take out one of the trago or faders, just because you have enough. Im not sure if thats enough to convince you, cause thats just an opinion of mine

Gorz: with no backrow (no trap, chainable quickspell) i can spec it easily
Tragoe: Lv10/DARK, Slier in everywhere with 2 copies i can take control slifer, this card gain ATK with kinka-piper spam easily
Fader: Lv1/DARK, tribut piper>draw this>draw 1 more (Tragoe gain 1200 ATK)

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GreyZekrom wrote:I'm with baricade, Lava golem fits well with relinquished. Also ya can think to take out sangan and add one moar releaser of rituals, better target for tour guide

Already -1 Fader for +1 Lava Golem
Sangan here for search: Djinn, Relinquished, Manju, Fader, Veiler, Tour Guide
and so much + from Sangan. 2 is enought or Djinn.
1st TGU for Djinn
2nd TGU for 2nd Djinn
3rd TGU for Sangan

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love this deck, never seen another person play this =D
been my main deck for a year and a bit.
just IMO, -1 black illusion +1 preparation works better, but thats mainly preference. lets you go black illusion for relinquished, preparation to get back black illusion and search relinquished, drop 2nd relinquished, preparation, drop 3rd relinquished if you really need to and it also lets you get relinquished to hand just to set up a play even without black illusion in grave.
my build is fairly different from this, but this is my only deck that i feel i can actually consistently drop DAD in. i would definitely try to fit it in.
and tbh id say keep 3 fader, or even add another veiler. those +1 or +2s (from kinka) with veiler really are amazing, and hand traps in general are just amazing
foolish is really unnecessary in here. tour guide is already basically a foolish and a boss monster built in one because it gets djinn, which is what you would foolish 90% of time. and for the 10% of time you would foolish a piper to set up kinka, at least imo itd be better to just draw a piper, i would switch foolish for a 3rd piper.
3 manju can really get unnecessary because with preparation, you really only need to get 1 black illusion to get combos, and preparation also searches relinquished. also because theres so much draw power from piper, searching will be less important usually.
teching in 1 symphonic warrior basses has always worked well for me, because its a lvl 1 so extra piper targets, and kinka into it can make basically any synchro if you have right hand size.
i dont know what youd take out, but maining creature swaps in decks like this is really good. swap away something then get it back with relinquished, or just give away your 0/0 monsters
that was really long..

From what your suggestion i got this

extremegopher wrote:
● -1 black illusion, +1 PoR
● keep 3 fader
● +1 veiler
● -1 foolish, +1 piper.
● -3 manju
● +1 symphonic basses warrior
● +? creature swaps

● 3 of 5 duelist already said dump BIR, still thinking it
● dump foolish? not only to set Djinn, but Foolish also to set Symphonic Warrior, Bulb, and LIGHT/DARK monster to summon BLS/Chaos Sorcerer
● dump 3 manju? it's key card
● +1 symphonic warrior, i dont know what to dump and also i have Trunk Deck (Card that i would add to Main/Side deck but doesn't have slot)
● +? Creature Swap, it's already in my side deck, would think to add it to main

Overall, may i see you deck image, deck list or duel?

i didnt mean -3 manju, i meant 3 is unnecessary, as in down to 2. sorry for confusion. and thats probably only if you do up to 3 por

oh, but Manju>PoR
It's ignition effect, LIGHT/Lv4, BLS/Chaos Sorcerer fodder would add few Rank 4 monster but don't have slot. maybe would -1 number 17 and -1 Zenmaines, to add 1x Number 39, 1x Steelswarm Roach or Lavalval Chain

My build is different from yours in that its more centered around piper, but honestly my main argument is that i almost always prefer kinka->piper over normaling a manju. my main argument here is that you have better things to normal summon. por continues your combos and lets you make game pushes and also doesnt stop you from going for a TGU play or a kinka play. and what makes you say manju>por? its better turn 1, sure, but mid to late game its gonna be better because it gets you both pieces, and if you dont have a bir in grave, you will have drawn it already by that point with all the draw power or searched it with the 2 manjus you still have. im guessing manju would still work fine.
and also, with creature swap, the thing is having it in your side, i feel like youre almost always gonna want to side it in. and youre either gonna end up wishing it was in the main or just never using it, because there are only a few decks that its really better against than others. but in my build, i run triple creature swap and its definitely the MVP. so many times ive gone TGU->releaser, leviair gets back sangan i removed for sorc or bls, swap sangan for their boss monster. or just swap away kinka and it still comes back to your hand during EP. and with the veilers and faders, just normal summon it and swap it for their boss monster to attack for game. swap is really just amazing in this deck =/

but with 3 manju 1 sangan, i already have 3rd POR. also both of them could summon BLS/Chaos Sorcerer. swap is really just amazing in this deck, but i dont have a slot for 3 of them and which 1 to dump

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Maybe it's because it's perfect?

-1 Fader
+1 Dustshoot

is all i can say.

mido9 wrote:Maybe it's because it's perfect?
-1 Fader
+1 Dustshoot
is all i can say.

it's unperfect. i have a card in Trunk deck that i wanna put to main deck, but i dont have space.

OT: Fader is a big guard here, it's Lv1/DARK, could be +1 if draw this with Mystic piper

y u no run glowup bulb?

what should i dump from main deck to maining it?

Every time I run a Kinka-Piper deck, I end up with big hand advantage. Maybe 41-42 cards is okay with this deck?

T3RCX wrote:Every time I run a Kinka-Piper deck, I end up with big hand advantage. Maybe 41-42 cards is okay with this deck?

Thought about it too..
many searcher in here (Sangan, 3x Manju, 2x Preparation of Rite)

the only thing i can think to drop ATM is a fader

robyschlager wrote:the only thing i can think to drop ATM is a fader

Fader here so Pro. DARK/Lv1/Stop OTK. IF draw this by piper, +1. if draw bulb with Piper = 0. bulb in hand is dead draw. If u suggest main Bulb to synchro, i already have it in Side. also have Symphonic warior basses in Trunk.

My semi relinquish deck. It's falls back on several boss monsters and graveyard manipulation.
https://imgur.com/d4oxM

Couple suggestions(although mines kinda odd)
Grinder golem is a pretty decent addition. Obvious synergy with relinquish and if you've got some good sync's you can get rid of the tokens(hence quickdraw).
You might want to consider adv ritual art.

The only thing i can think of is are you sure you want to go the lvl 1 route? Only kinka and piper actually take advantage of it, but you could just hose them, lower your fader numbers(although you may have already) and add alternate threats. As it stands you're somewhat lacking since your actual gameplan seems to be "stall and draw fast until BLS/Sorc/Rel" And of those rel is probably the weakest simply because he has a hard time vs a full field of enemy monsters.

Yours kind odd.
1. i dont have and no need Normal Monster in my deck, so i dont considered ARA.
2. if u see my decklist not contain backrow, remember MST at 3 and Heavy at 1, Trap card only make deck slower.
3. Only Kinka-Byo, Piper? Relinquished also Lv1, Symphonic Warrior also Lv1, D.D. Crow too. and by draw power from Piper, Tragoe ATK arround 3000.
4. Look at my Deck Combo, that why so easy sumon Relinquished. and those are also my gameplan (Lock/Stall/Beatdown)
5. for Swap and Lava Golem, what should i dump?

2 weeks already from my last reply..
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Change the ratio to 3/2 Veiler/Fader.

You like your hand, don't you Squidward?

Halberdier wrote:Change the ratio to 3/2 Veiler/Fader. You like your hand, don't you Squidward?

Nah, no Squiddy here.. :p but i like my hand always full (while the ration 30 monsters (Kinka-Byo, Veiler, Fader, Symphonic warrior, D.D. Crow, Relinquished even at 3) and 10 spells ) Veiler to 3? Fader to 3? or Veiler to 2, Fader to 2?

OOT: Bulb is banned, nah i have slot to side Symphonic then

if there is anything I can say is that you're being original.

Raziel wrote:if there is anything I can say is that you're being original.

Not original. Inspired by guy that Top 32 with Herald Perfection in YCS Colombus and used Tour Guide and Djinn (that when i realize if Djinn also a DARK/Fiend/Lv3 being a Tour Guide friend. Use to to Xyz for instant dump and do Ritual summon)

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<3 Relinquished.

That's my contribution.