predictions for march 2012 ban list

**mattsu** 2011-12-25, 14:01

still working on

banned
brionac dragon of ice barrier discard 1 card get rid of anything synchro xyz and can be used multiple times a turn

dark hole 1 card nuke barely ever hurts you

black luster solider envoy begging removing anything regardless of face up or down 3000 very easy to summon and destroy monster atk 3000 direct most of the time

limited
goyo guardian any atack counter rapes this card force d prison sakaretesu
cyber jar kinda of slow lets both players draw and special summon monsters
magician of faith very slow in this format many counters
rescue cat it is only usuable in gb and some xsaber builds
solemn warning negates summon or effects to ss 2000 lp very cheap to use only 1/4 of lp
cards of safe return contiouns spell 3 mst and heavy wont stay out alot of the time

semi limted
fabled raven ridculous card in fables and dw
master hyperion easily summon able monster allows easy otks and destroys anything
grapha dragon god of darkworld spamable monster every turn as long as its not removed

kault blackwing doesn`t guarantee a kill when used

black whirwind search only can be activated on normal summon assuming they dont get bth compulse etc

charge of the light brigade constituency purposes and helps grave reliant decks that use ryko

allure of darkness has a cost of removing dark or discarding all
solemn judgment pay half negate anything except effects

black rose nuke on everything when it comes out

no longer llimited/semi

thoughts?

**Question Mark** 2011-12-25, 14:19

this list shows that you don't have even a vague understanding of what makes a card ban worthy or not. I think this list is just your own personal wish's by the looks of things. especially since you made no attempt to explain your choices.

**Badass_Bunny** 2011-12-25, 14:37

Dear God save us all.....

**mattsu** 2011-12-25, 14:47

I think most of the limited cards in my list could come off there is many more counters for them compared to when they were legal.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-12-25, 14:53

mattsu wrote:I think most of the limited cards in my list could come off there is many more counters for them compared to when they were legal.

We have one million and one counters to CED. But he is never coming off.

**CCStormgust** 2011-12-25, 15:10

If alien read this list they will blow the earth

**Phoenix Wright** 2011-12-25, 15:13

Spoiler:

**mattsu** 2011-12-25, 15:33

going to update with reasons through out the day

**zerods** 2011-12-25, 15:44

goyo guardian is not going to be unleashed, i think konami is gonna make a xyz monster who has the same effect but to use his effect he needs to detach a material, more balanced than goyo.
card of the safe return? this card is worst than BLS to the format
i dont know if rabbit is gonna get hitted so quick

i just wanna be brio banned and hornet limited

**mattsu** 2011-12-25, 15:50

hornet limited wouldnt matter cause of foolish armegeddon knight and grepher which most inzector builds run I could see damsel semi or limited its the main problem card

**Nelrick** 2011-12-25, 16:21

Rescue Cat.
Your argument is invalid.

**CCStormgust** 2011-12-25, 16:22

Ok guys, here the real ban list bought to you from the future( believe it or not ).

Forbidden Cards:

Brionac, Dragon of the ice boundary
Black luster soldier - envoy the beginning This time will go back to the dark dusty binder where he belong
Sangan*
Dandylion
Mind control
Pot of Avarice
Dead Resurrection
Future Fusion

Trap dustshoot

Restricted Cards:
( 1 per deck )

Goyou guardian
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Boundary

Broww, Darkworld Hunter
Naturia Bamboo Shoot
Armageddon Knight

Last will*
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Michizure of Doom
Sealed Gold Coffer
Ultimate Offering
Warning of God
Bottomless Trap Hole
Royal Oppression

Semi-Restricted cards:

Lumina, Lightlord summoner
Ronintoadin

Reinforcement of light
Pureflame Eruption
Pot of Duality

No longer on the list:

Mezuki
Destiny Hero Malicious
Marshmallow*
Summon priest*
Lonefire Blossom*
PRIMAL SEED*
MAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION

**mattsu** 2011-12-25, 16:43

primal seed infinite good for the game.. might as well have 3 of everything the direction your going

**Lovelace** 2011-12-25, 16:56

CCStormgust wrote:Ok guys, here the real ban list bought to you from the future( believe it or not ).

Forbidden Cards:

Brionac, Dragon of the ice boundary
Black luster soldier - envoy the beginning This time will go back to the dark dusty binder where he belong
Sangan*
Dandylion
Mind control
Pot of Avarice
Dead Resurrection
Future Fusion

Trap dustshoot

Restricted Cards:
( 1 per deck )

Goyou guardian
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Boundary

Broww, Darkworld Hunter
Naturia Bamboo Shoot
Armageddon Knight

Last will*
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Michizure of Doom
Sealed Gold Coffer
Ultimate Offering
Warning of God
Bottomless Trap Hole
Royal Oppression

Semi-Restricted cards:

Lumina, Lightlord summoner
Ronintoadin

Reinforcement of light
Pureflame Eruption
Pot of Duality

No longer on the list:

Mezuki
Destiny Hero Malicious
Marshmallow*
Summon priest*
Lonefire Blossom*
PRIMAL SEED*
MAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION

For some reason, I believe this. Is that official? If so, link plz

**Resonating Lust** 2011-12-25, 17:01

CCStormgust wrote:Ok guys, here the real ban list bought to you from the future( believe it or not ).

Forbidden Cards:

Brionac, Dragon of the ice boundary
Black luster soldier - envoy the beginning This time will go back to the dark dusty binder where he belong
Sangan*
Dandylion
Mind control
Pot of Avarice
Dead Resurrection
Future Fusion

Trap dustshoot

Restricted Cards:
( 1 per deck )

Goyou guardian
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Boundary

Broww, Darkworld Hunter
Naturia Bamboo Shoot
Armageddon Knight

Last will*
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Michizure of Doom
Sealed Gold Coffer
Ultimate Offering
Warning of God
Bottomless Trap Hole
Royal Oppression

Semi-Restricted cards:

Lumina, Lightlord summoner
Ronintoadin

Reinforcement of light
Pureflame Eruption
Pot of Duality

No longer on the list:

Mezuki
Destiny Hero Malicious
Marshmallow*
Summon priest*
Lonefire Blossom*
PRIMAL SEED*
MAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION

Let's go over this again...

Dustshoot banned?
Goyo back @1?
LONFIRE BLOSSOM @3!?
Malicious @3?
Lumina @2?
FREAKING SNATCH STEAL @1?
Excavation @3?
Last Will @1?
Mezuki @3?
Bottomless @1?
Broww @1?

Yeah...just...no...

**welche** 2011-12-25, 17:02

CCStormgust wrote:Ok guys, here the real ban list bought to you from the future( believe it or not ).

Forbidden Cards:

Brionac, Dragon of the ice boundary
Black luster soldier - envoy the beginning This time will go back to the dark dusty binder where he belong
Sangan*
Dandylion
Mind control
Pot of Avarice
Dead Resurrection
Future Fusion

Trap dustshoot

Restricted Cards:
( 1 per deck )

Goyou guardian
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Boundary

Broww, Darkworld Hunter
Naturia Bamboo Shoot
Armageddon Knight

Last will*
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Michizure of Doom
Sealed Gold Coffer
Ultimate Offering
Warning of God
Bottomless Trap Hole
Royal Oppression

Semi-Restricted cards:

Lumina, Lightlord summoner
Ronintoadin

Reinforcement of light
Pureflame Eruption
Pot of Duality

No longer on the list:

Mezuki
Destiny Hero Malicious
Marshmallow*
Summon priest*
Lonefire Blossom*
PRIMAL SEED*
MAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION

May I please have some of your cocain? This list cannot be legit.

**mattsu** 2011-12-25, 17:08

the only thing confirmed for next ban list is cyber jar to 1

**{EX} TheVoid** 2011-12-25, 17:11

CCStormgust wrote:Ok guys, here the real ban list bought to you from the future( believe it or not ).

Forbidden Cards:

Brionac, Dragon of the ice boundary
Black luster soldier - envoy the beginning This time will go back to the dark dusty binder where he belong
Sangan*
Dandylion
Mind control
Pot of Avarice
Dead Resurrection
Future Fusion

Trap dustshoot

Restricted Cards:
( 1 per deck )

Goyou guardian
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Boundary

Broww, Darkworld Hunter
Naturia Bamboo Shoot
Armageddon Knight

Last will*
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Michizure of Doom
Sealed Gold Coffer
Ultimate Offering
Warning of God
Bottomless Trap Hole
Royal Oppression

Semi-Restricted cards:

Lumina, Lightlord summoner
Ronintoadin

Reinforcement of light
Pureflame Eruption
Pot of Duality

No longer on the list:

Mezuki
Destiny Hero Malicious
Marshmallow*
Summon priest*
Lonefire Blossom*
PRIMAL SEED*
MAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION

predictions for march 2012 ban list Mother-of-god-meme

**welche** 2011-12-25, 17:15

Can I get proof Cyber Jar is going to 1?

**Dart** 2011-12-25, 17:16

No offense, but I find both lists terrible >_>. Is like "Hey, apply those lists so I can play my Wind-Ups, Tour Guides and Rabbits without worrying", just to say one of the multiple things I find awful about them.

**Lovelace** 2011-12-25, 17:16

When did Cyber Jar get confirmed?

**Saturn** 2011-12-25, 17:31

CCStormgust wrote:Ok guys, here the real ban list bought to you from the future( believe it or not ).

Forbidden Cards:

Brionac, Dragon of the ice boundary
Black luster soldier - envoy the beginning This time will go back to the dark dusty binder where he belong
Sangan*
Dandylion
Mind control
Pot of Avarice
Dead Resurrection
Future Fusion

Trap dustshoot

Restricted Cards:
( 1 per deck )

Goyou guardian
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Boundary

Broww, Darkworld Hunter
Naturia Bamboo Shoot
Armageddon Knight

Last will*
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Michizure of Doom
Sealed Gold Coffer
Ultimate Offering
Warning of God
Bottomless Trap Hole
Royal Oppression

Semi-Restricted cards:

Lumina, Lightlord summoner
Ronintoadin

Reinforcement of light
Pureflame Eruption
Pot of Duality

No longer on the list:

Mezuki
Destiny Hero Malicious
Marshmallow*
Summon priest*
Lonefire Blossom*
PRIMAL SEED*
MAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION

**CCStormgust** 2011-12-25, 18:08

Resonating Lust wrote:

Let's go over this again...

Dustshoot banned?
Goyo back @1?
LONFIRE BLOSSOM @3!?
Malicious @3?
Lumina @2?
FREAKING SNATCH STEAL @1?
Excavation @3?
Last Will @1?
Mezuki @3?
Bottomless @1?
Broww @1?

Yeah...just...no...

Dustshoot, first turn rape, basically you win the game since you see your opponent hand and disturb their strategy. And nothing can negate beside herald of purple light.
Goyo, They banned at first because of Exceed monsters but now they released that xyz monsters are are useless without materials.
Lonefire at 3: Only pure plant deck will run 3. The plant engine don't need more than 2 considering dandy & avarice banned.
Last will: Unlike sangan, it's unsearchable by tour guide.
Mezuki: Forget about 2009 when zombies used to be cool, the meta deck will be inzektor, agent, dw, asceticism six sam
Lumina: ^
Malicious: ^
Broww: it's like a free +2 for dw or a free discard.
Snatch Steal: Know how and when to use your mst beside tier 3 and end phase, can also be countered by book of moon and doesn't work on facedown monsters.
Magical stone: Who still use it ? Exodia ftk ?
Gold Sarc is being limited to slow down rabbit decks, Rabbit will not be hit now, just not yet. It's still a new card and they're still making money out of it... A lot of it.

mattsu wrote:primal seed infinite good for the game.. might as well have 3 of everything the direction your going

Did you even read the list properly ? if is BLS banned, what threat would primal seed present ?

mattsu wrote:hornet limited wouldnt matter cause of foolish armegeddon knight and grepher which most inzector builds run I could see damsel semi or limited its the main problem card

Dude... You have no F*** idea what you're talking about. Stop. Just Stop please. For the love of the game.
Konami will never hit new cards. Remember that. Just imagine: Order of Chaos: Released January 24, 2012 and then *bam* semi limited on march ? think about it, think a second k ?
Same thing for grapha
And for the last time stop dreaming, tour guide and tengu will never hit the ban list as long as it is tcg only.

**Nelrick** 2011-12-25, 18:23

So the list you showed is full of guesses with no real way to know if its right.

and lolwut?

asceticism six sam

Anyways why do ppl try to do this kind of threads mid-format? they only produce "You are a noob and know nothing of this game" responses.

**welche** 2011-12-25, 18:32

Goyo is still just as broke. Now we just have a new set of monsters. It's a fucking +2 when it kills something. Are you actually saying that is better than Dustshoot?

Dustshoot is good T1 but after that it's dead a lot. @1 is the perfect place for it.

Lonefire @3 is probably the dumbest thing I've heard. Any Plant Synchro deck will run 3 for a great chance to draw it and massive deck thinning. It's bad enough @1.

Last Will unlike Sangan doesn't take up a NS to get on your field and is way faster than Sangan.

Mezuki is balanced @1 though could go to 2. 3 would be nonesense.

Malicious @3 would be idiotic.

Lumina I could see @2 because Konami is pushing LS with the list.

Snoww >>>> Broww. It's a +1 not a +2 and isn't broke at all. Snoww searches specific cards just as well as Broww.

Snatch Steal is broke as hell. Who cares about 1k LPs when you just got an amazing monster.

Magical Stone is used in Empty Jar not Exodia FTK. Just proving you dont know what you are talking about.

Gold Sarc is fine @3 for what should be obvious reasons.

**{EX} TheVoid** 2011-12-25, 18:39

CCStormgust wrote:
Resonating Lust wrote:
Dustshoot banned?
Goyo back @1?
LONFIRE BLOSSOM @3!?
Malicious @3?
Lumina @2?
FREAKING SNATCH STEAL @1?
Excavation @3?
Last Will @1?
Mezuki @3?
Bottomless @1?
Broww @1?

Yeah...just...no...
Dustshoot, first turn rape, basically you win the game since you see your opponent hand and disturb their strategy. And nothing can negate beside herald of purple light.
Dustshoot isnt game breaking without Mind Crush. Leave it at 1.
Goyo, They banned at first because of Exceed monsters but now they released that xyz monsters are are useless without materials.
Goyo was banned for XYZs... when it was the first synchro banned? yeaokno. Its broke as shit.

Lonefire at 3: Only pure plant deck will run 3. The plant engine don't need more than 2 considering dandy & avarice banned.
Lonefire at 3 will keep Tengu Plants working. In fact it'll probably speed it up by allowing you to get spore or glow 3x as fast.

Last will: Unlike sangan, it's unsearchable by tour guide.
Last Will is COMPLETELY broken.

Mezuki: Forget about 2009 when zombies used to be cool, the meta deck will be inzektor, agent, dw, asceticism six sam
Go ahead, make Zombies Tier 0. 3 Mezukis means rediculous plays with both Synchro and XYZ ability.

Lumina: ^
Way to continue to push LS, a deck which already is good this format.

Malicious: ^
You just brought back DivaDAD. DivaDAD will destroy most of the current decks.

Broww: it's like a free +2 for dw or a free discard.
DW arent consistant enough as it is, leave it alone.

Snatch Steal: Know how and when to use your mst beside tier 3 and end phase, can also be countered by book of moon and doesn't work on facedown monsters.
Counterability=/=playability. Snatch Steal is broken as hell.

Magical stone: Who still use it ? Exodia ftk ?
This is probably the only thing I can understand.

Gold Sarc is being limited to slow down rabbit decks, Rabbit will not be hit now, just not yet. It's still a new card and they're still making money out of it... A lot of it.
Not sure how I feel about this.

**Lovelace** 2011-12-25, 18:43

CCStormgust wrote:
Resonating Lust wrote:

Let's go over this again...

Dustshoot banned?
Goyo back @1?
LONFIRE BLOSSOM @3!?
Malicious @3?
Lumina @2?
FREAKING SNATCH STEAL @1?
Excavation @3?
Last Will @1?
Mezuki @3?
Bottomless @1?
Broww @1?

Yeah...just...no...
Dustshoot, first turn rape, basically you win the game since you see your opponent hand and disturb their strategy. And nothing can negate beside herald of purple light.
Goyo, They banned at first because of Exceed monsters but now they released that xyz monsters are are useless without materials.
Lonefire at 3: Only pure plant deck will run 3. The plant engine don't need more than 2 considering dandy & avarice banned.
Last will: Unlike sangan, it's unsearchable by tour guide.
Mezuki: Forget about 2009 when zombies used to be cool, the meta deck will be inzektor, agent, dw, asceticism six sam
Lumina: ^
Malicious: ^
Broww: it's like a free +2 for dw or a free discard.
Snatch Steal: Know how and when to use your mst beside tier 3 and end phase, can also be countered by book of moon and doesn't work on facedown monsters.
Magical stone: Who still use it ? Exodia ftk ?
Gold Sarc is being limited to slow down rabbit decks, Rabbit will not be hit now, just not yet. It's still a new card and they're still making money out of it... A lot of it.

mattsu wrote:primal seed infinite good for the game.. might as well have 3 of everything the direction your going
Did you even read the list properly ? if is BLS banned, what threat would primal seed present ?
mattsu wrote:hornet limited wouldnt matter cause of foolish armegeddon knight and grepher which most inzector builds run I could see damsel semi or limited its the main problem card
Dude... You have no F*** idea what you're talking about. Stop. Just Stop please. For the love of the game.
Konami will never hit new cards. Remember that. Just imagine: Order of Chaos: Released January 24, 2012 and then *bam* semi limited on march ? think about it, think a second k ?
Same thing for grapha
And for the last time stop dreaming, tour guide and tengu will never hit the ban list as long as it is tcg only.

I like how you think

**Nicholaz99** 2011-12-26, 22:13

i think bls-eotb will limited in march banlist because the ocg reprint it in gold series ocg 2012

**zekana** 2011-12-27, 04:21

as far as "rescue cat" goes, with wind-ups, i don't think it can ever be unbanned now.

let's just read the effects of the targetable cards (and let's assume you summon both out)
Wind-up dog
lv3 earth
1200 atk, 900 def
During your Main Phase: You can increase this card's Level by 2 and ATK by 600, until the End Phase. This effect can be used only once while this card is face-up on the field.
Basically an instant Rank 3 or 5 XYZ, and 2 1800 beaters aren't bad.

Wind-up Kitten
lv2 earth
800 atk, 500 def
You can target 1 monster your opponent controls; return that target to the hand. This effect can only be used once while this card is face-up on the field.
return 2 opponent's monsters and instant rank 2

Wind-up Rat
...DO I REALLY NEED TO GO OVER THE WIND-UP HAND DESTRUCTION LOOP? just another way of pulling it off.

**HarleyThomas** 2011-12-27, 16:49

I have no problems with Magician of Faith being brought back to one. Any combo with it is wicked slow, so unless you're using a deck that uses a lot of flip effects it's pretty much only a once per duel thing unless you pull a Pot of Avarice, The Transmigration Prophecy, and/or Des Feral Imp (which nobody uses).

Of course I could be overlooking something.

**Mf Andrew** 2011-12-27, 19:00

In my opinion, Goyo Guardian is still not as broken as it used to be. They're not going to ban Brionac because it's not hard to get over. In terms of BLS, they wouldn't ban a card that just got released. Since Inzectors hasn't been released yet in TCG, they shouldn't hit hornet next format.

**boss2033** 2011-12-28, 10:33

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the beginning only was taken out of the ban list so they can sell of the "Gold Series", nw going to bk to where it startd from, THE BAN LIST. Guess these few months that it was out has been used and over used Smile

**HarleyThomas** 2011-12-29, 13:44

I can't see Black Luster Soldier going back just yet. There's still plenty more money left to be made and honestly it's not a big deal.

It might have been something to get ones knickers in a knot once upon a time ago, but now it just seems more like an inconvenience. And not even a big one at that.

**DoomVendor** 2012-01-10, 18:24

Semi-limiting grapha would hardly do anything considering 3 snoww can easily search it out. Also brionac is not that hard to recover from considering your opponent needs to discard cards. And goyo on limited? really? The only thing i can agree with is hyperion and charge of the light brigade to semi.

**!! AllxNightxLong !!** 2012-01-10, 19:02

haha lonefire at 3, yeah right, give me the green you smoke, it must be good.
And snatch and Steel? really? i think not...
it's just as worse then Brain controll, i'm suprised that's not on your list xD

**plsgiveme500k** 2012-01-12, 11:12

Card of safe return at 1...? Means I get a draw each time I just use level eater effect, glow up bulb effect, quillbolt, treeborn and junk synchron...? Hmm... this card enable me to draw numerous of card when summoning quasar then I end up with have 1 quasar on field and have 6/7 card in hand... nice man... but sorry, this card make me dislike it because this card is OP and it's need to stay banned forever...

**MaiValentine93** 2012-01-12, 11:23

*Prays for StarDust Dragon*
Even tho it probably wont happen. I hate that card.
But hey,you never know.
lol ^^

**HarleyThomas** 2012-01-14, 21:05

Hating on Stardust.

That's hilarious.

**Tsunayoshi** 2012-01-14, 21:11

...

This thread hasnt been treated as a blatant attempt at trolling?

OPs list and probably 90% of the lists in here will never happen in any form.

**3E-hero neos** 2012-01-15, 07:30

Lemme see:

Banned:
- Trap Dustshoot
- Dandylion.

Limited:
- Wind-Up Zenmaighty
- Inzekter Hornet(not sure it should go to 1 or 2).
- Tsukuyomi(yeah, so?).

Semi-Limit:
- Judgment Dragon(harder OTK plays).
- Master Hyperion(too strong for such an easy summon).
- The Agent of Creation - Venus(2/3 Shine Balls > Gachi Gachi and then Hyperion, youmad?).
- Debris Dragon(without Dandylion, this can go to 2).
- The Transmigration Prophecy(chainable but to kill setups you have TBU and it's not like anyone would care).

Unlimited:
- Magical Stone of Excavation(and it's still at 2 because??).

Won't be 100% accurate, but I think it's not a bad one...

**CCStormgust** 2012-01-15, 11:59

3E-hero neos wrote:Lemme see:

Banned:
- Trap Dustshoot
- Dandylion.

Limited:
- Wind-Up Zenmaighty
- Inzekter Hornet(not sure it should go to 1 or 2).
- Tsukuyomi(yeah, so?).

Semi-Limit:
- Judgment Dragon(harder OTK plays).
- Master Hyperion(too strong for such an easy summon).
- The Agent of Creation - Venus(2/3 Shine Balls > Gachi Gachi and then Hyperion, youmad?).
- Debris Dragon(without Dandylion, this can go to 2).
- The Transmigration Prophecy(chainable but to kill setups you have TBU and it's not like anyone would care).

Unlimited:
- Magical Stone of Excavation(and it's still at 2 because??).

Won't be 100% accurate, but I think it's not a bad one...

^Another ignorant

**R4GEKILL** 2012-01-16, 00:35

Alright. I'd Love to troll, but seriously, let's be realistic. This is what will probably happen:
Banned:
Sangan.
Lonefire blossom.

There. That makes sense.

**3E-hero neos** 2012-01-16, 09:58

CCStormgust wrote:
3E-hero neos wrote:Lemme see:

Banned:
- Trap Dustshoot
- Dandylion.

Limited:
- Wind-Up Zenmaighty
- Inzekter Hornet(not sure it should go to 1 or 2).
- Tsukuyomi(yeah, so?).

Semi-Limit:
- Judgment Dragon(harder OTK plays).
- Master Hyperion(too strong for such an easy summon).
- The Agent of Creation - Venus(2/3 Shine Balls > Gachi Gachi and then Hyperion, youmad?).
- Debris Dragon(without Dandylion, this can go to 2).
- The Transmigration Prophecy(chainable but to kill setups you have TBU and it's not like anyone would care).

Unlimited:
- Magical Stone of Excavation(and it's still at 2 because??).

Won't be 100% accurate, but I think it's not a bad one...

^Another ignorant

Your argument is invalid if you don't give an actual argument....
I'm a semi-realist, Konami did weird things in the past, I think this list would actually be pretty normal...Why am I ignorant?

**plsgiveme500k** 2012-01-16, 11:04

I can say... no one at here can successfully predict a ban list, because some ban list prediction is based on their hatred toward a certain top tier deck... but not the gaming mechanics... For example, a dark world hater hope grapha get hit in ban list so the hater predict a ban list that grapha is semi-limited... a dark world fans will not hope grapha will get hit, so the fans predict a ban list that grapha will stay unlimited...

**S.S.A.** 2012-01-16, 11:14

3E-hero neos wrote:
CCStormgust wrote:
3E-hero neos wrote:Lemme see:

Banned:
- Trap Dustshoot
- Dandylion.

Limited:
- Wind-Up Zenmaighty
- Inzekter Hornet(not sure it should go to 1 or 2).
- Tsukuyomi(yeah, so?).

Semi-Limit:
- Judgment Dragon(harder OTK plays).
- Master Hyperion(too strong for such an easy summon).
- The Agent of Creation - Venus(2/3 Shine Balls > Gachi Gachi and then Hyperion, youmad?).
- Debris Dragon(without Dandylion, this can go to 2).
- The Transmigration Prophecy(chainable but to kill setups you have TBU and it's not like anyone would care).

Unlimited:
- Magical Stone of Excavation(and it's still at 2 because??).

Won't be 100% accurate, but I think it's not a bad one...

^Another ignorant

Your argument is invalid if you don't give an actual argument....
I'm a semi-realist, Konami did weird things in the past, I think this list would actually be pretty normal...Why am I ignorant?

its to early to hit windups or hornet, dustshoot isnt to much of a concern at one, its really only devistating early game, late game it doesnt apply all that often, ill agree with dandy, and id like to see the agents limited as well as jd but im not so sure

**Phoenix Wright** 2012-01-16, 11:32

Magical Stone excavation is semi'd because it makes magical explosion ftk much easier to pull off, and makes other cheep/silly decks to consistent

**3E-hero neos** 2012-01-16, 11:42

I never faced Stone FTK stuff it in the past, so that could be a mistake.

About the WU's and Inzekter, Konami doesn't just want to make money, sometimes they care about the sake of the game so I think weakening them by just a bit would be fine(WU can still work with 1 Zenmaighty, just no loop, same goes for Inzekter).

And every now and then I face JD OTK, with a BLS on top it's extra easy to pull. I think it'd be fine at 2.

**Phoenix Wright** 2012-01-16, 11:44

CCStormgust wrote:Ok guys, here the real ban list bought to you from the future( believe it or not ).

Forbidden Cards:

Brionac, Dragon of the ice boundary
Black luster soldier - envoy the beginning This time will go back to the dark dusty binder where he belong
Sangan*
Dandylion
Mind control
Pot of Avarice
Dead Resurrection
Future Fusion

Trap dustshoot

Restricted Cards:
( 1 per deck )

Goyou guardian
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Boundary

Broww, Darkworld Hunter
Naturia Bamboo Shoot
Armageddon Knight

Last will*
Snatch Steal
Premature Burial
Michizure of Doom
Sealed Gold Coffer
Ultimate Offering
Warning of God
Bottomless Trap Hole
Royal Oppression

Semi-Restricted cards:

Lumina, Lightlord summoner
Ronintoadin

Reinforcement of light
Pureflame Eruption
Pot of Duality

No longer on the list:

Mezuki
Destiny Hero Malicious
Marshmallow*
Summon priest*
Lonefire Blossom*
PRIMAL SEED*
MAGICAL STONE EXCAVATION

On a related note, the above list shows that whoever made it has no idea how yugioh works, if this were to happen, there would be so many degenerate combos/decks, most people would quit

**CCStormgust** 2012-01-16, 11:58

3E-hero neos wrote:
CCStormgust wrote:
3E-hero neos wrote:Lemme see:

Banned:
- Trap Dustshoot
- Dandylion.

Limited:
- Wind-Up Zenmaighty
- Inzekter Hornet(not sure it should go to 1 or 2).
- Tsukuyomi(yeah, so?).

Semi-Limit:
- Judgment Dragon(harder OTK plays).
- Master Hyperion(too strong for such an easy summon).
- The Agent of Creation - Venus(2/3 Shine Balls > Gachi Gachi and then Hyperion, youmad?).
- Debris Dragon(without Dandylion, this can go to 2).
- The Transmigration Prophecy(chainable but to kill setups you have TBU and it's not like anyone would care).

Unlimited:
- Magical Stone of Excavation(and it's still at 2 because??).

Won't be 100% accurate, but I think it's not a bad one...

^Another ignorant

Your argument is invalid if you don't give an actual argument....
I'm a semi-realist, Konami did weird things in the past, I think this list would actually be pretty normal...Why am I ignorant?

Zenmaighty & Inzekter released jan 24 limited march 1 does that sound logical to you ?

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