[EX] The Exile VS Aesir Warriors [AW] - {EX Wins}

**Key** 2011-12-28, 04:00

Rank: TCG.
* Implies the following: Advanced Format Banlist without changes, best 2 out of 3, side-Decking allowed.
War format: Crossfire.

Crossfire:

Deck changing after a match won: Not allowed.
Deck changing after a lost match: N/A.
Form of communication: DN, forums, Skype.
Deadline: 25 days.

EX Roster:

» TamA
» Joco
» Key
» TheVoid
» Tarantila
» VantageSP
» DesignerDrugs
» LegendaryFrost

Subs:

» Xae
» Supreme_King

AW Roster:

» Ancientman7
» Nelrick
» Selurnipohc
» Xb-Eazy
» RRyan18
» Xenjin
» Colder Than Ice
» Mizukage

Subs:

» Ladysin
» Shadowsong

Matchups:

#. [EX] vs [AW]

1. Key [2] VS [1] Colder Than Ice
2. Key [1] VS [2] Xb-Eazy
3. Joco [2] VS [1] Mizukage
4. DesignerDrugs [2] VS [1] Ancientman7
5. Tarantila [1] VS [2] RRyan18
6. Joco [2] VS [1] Xb-Eazy
7. DesignerDrugs [2] VS [1] Nelrick
8. DesignerDrugs [2] vs [1] RRyan18
9. TheVoid [0] VS [2] Selurnpohc
10. DesignerDrugs [1] VS [2] Xenjin

**ancientman7** 2011-12-28, 11:58

My roster

1. Ancientman7
2. Nelrick
3. Selurnipohc
4. Xb-Eazy
5. RRyan18
6. Xenjin
7. Colder than Ice
8. Mizukage

Subs-
Ladysin
Shadowsong

No deck changes btw

**Joco** 2011-12-28, 12:19

EX's Roster:
1. TamA
2. Joco
3. Key
4. TheVoid
5. Tarantila
6. Supreme_King
7. DesignerDrugs
8. LegendaryFrost

Subs:
Xae
VantageSP

**Joco** 2011-12-28, 12:25

Approve this war. Thx. Bye.

**Zero2Hero** 2011-12-28, 16:43

Approved, have fun.

**Joco** 2011-12-29, 12:30

little fun since no duels yet:
[EX] The Exile VS Aesir Warriors [AW] - {EX Wins} PETD7

**Jin Kazama** 2011-12-29, 12:39

Is it appropriate manners for a team member to challenge you, and then five minutes later rescind that challenge?

**Designer Drugs** 2011-12-29, 12:42

Jin Kazama wrote:Is it appropriate manners for a team member to challenge you, and then five minutes later rescind that challenge?

oooo yugioh manners, shit just got serious

**Joco** 2011-12-29, 12:46

Jin Kazama wrote:Is it appropriate manners for a team member to challenge you, and then five minutes later rescind that challenge?

idk y u said that but is that an appropriate manner for a team leader to quit when an opposite team's member say hi?

**Colder Than Ice** 2011-12-29, 12:48

I know that our two team's "love" each other, but please keep the war civilized.

**Joco** 2011-12-29, 13:00

No, seems u dont know the meaning of 'war'! [EX] The Exile VS Aesir Warriors [AW] - {EX Wins} 1545188673

Flame wars FTW! [EX] The Exile VS Aesir Warriors [AW] - {EX Wins} 2585209286

**Jin Kazama** 2011-12-29, 13:54

https://imgur.com/yU4dh
https://imgur.com/ziVTD

With all due respect, I'm not impressed by the way I have been treated by EX, and if the teams are not going to keep it civilized, I request Ancientman sub me out. I've had no less than three people 'suggested' to me for the war. First DD, then he suggested I war TamA, then Joco comes along.

I was asked to do a war with papagrapa against TSC, which I accepted temporarily as I wasn't aware of what EX wanted to do.

**Colder Than Ice** 2011-12-29, 13:58

Yeah, this is getting out of hand. Either stop the flaming or cancel the war.

**Joco** 2011-12-29, 14:08

Well instead getting out all this thing and making screenshots, it would be easier to duel with me. But np. I wont ask u again for dueling.

**Supreme_King** 2011-12-29, 14:14

Jin Kazama wrote:With all due respect, I'm not impressed by the way I have been treated by EX

I am EX and I haven't even talked to you. Don't put us nice EX members in the same pot with trolls in our team.

**Designer Drugs** 2011-12-29, 14:30

Jin Kazama wrote:https://imgur.com/yU4dh
https://imgur.com/ziVTD

With all due respect, I'm not impressed by the way I have been treated by EX, and if the teams are not going to keep it civilized, I request Ancientman sub me out. I've had no less than three people 'suggested' to me for the war. First DD, then he suggested I war TamA, then Joco comes along.

I was asked to do a war with papagrapa against TSC, which I accepted temporarily as I wasn't aware of what EX wanted to do.

I can't stand yugioh drama, so with all respect, stop being a p*ssy.
We asked you to duel and told us "one moment, going to take a coffee" and then totally ignored us while dueling for another war without telling us, and now you're just whining for nothing. Please stop dodging us and let's get this war finished, actually let's get it started since you guys didn't accept to duel yet -_-

**Zero2Hero** 2011-12-29, 14:37

Stop the drama and start dueling people. Instead of just logging off when EX wants to duel, give them a reason why you can't right now. We can understand if you are busy, but do not ignore them.

No need for name calling etc

Like DD said, let's get the war started!

**Key** 2011-12-29, 20:35

You 2 idiots, shut up!
You're not following the strategy, we're suppose to troll them until they lose, not flame them [EX] The Exile VS Aesir Warriors [AW] - {EX Wins} 4sgwvt

[EX] The Exile VS Aesir Warriors [AW] - {EX Wins} 4sgwvt

Xenjin, he won't get banned, he'll get a warning at most
I won 2-1 against Colder than Ice

**Adept VantageSP** 2011-12-29, 21:52

Please don't group me in with the trolls. I would prefer not to be generalized.

**Nelrick** 2011-12-29, 21:53

LolDrama. Anyways, This is getting stupid.

If a person doesnt want to duel you its not the god damn end of the world FFS.

This is the freaking first day, Idk why he refused to duel but there is no need to flip about it.

There are another 6 on this war, There is no "OMGZ everyone is refusing on me!!!" Relax your pony, if someone from AW continually refuses to duel you he will get subbed out. I suppose there were reasons but really who cares. On another point im going to be on for some time,feel free to ask i wont refuse. "There are souls on the line on this !! Yugi knew what was up.."

**Key** 2011-12-29, 21:54

vantagesp wrote:Please don't group me in with the trolls. I would prefer not to be generalized.

That's too bad, if you want to be on a team, you'll have to handle generalization

**Adept VantageSP** 2011-12-29, 21:56

Key wrote:
vantagesp wrote:Please don't group me in with the trolls. I would prefer not to be generalized.
That's too bad, if you want to be on a team, you'll have to handle generalization

Fair enough. But I am keeping my dignity.

**{EX} TheVoid** 2011-12-30, 01:11

vantagesp wrote:
Key wrote:
vantagesp wrote:Please don't group me in with the trolls. I would prefer not to be generalized.
That's too bad, if you want to be on a team, you'll have to handle generalization

Fair enough. But I am keeping my dignity.

You sold your soul to us, you have given up your dignity.

**Adept VantageSP** 2011-12-30, 01:18

I sold my soul already, so it is long long.

**Key** 2011-12-30, 01:32

Lost to xb-Easy 2-1

**Xb-Eazy** 2011-12-30, 01:38

I neat key 2-1 ggs

**Celtic** 2011-12-30, 07:22

Xb-Eazy wrote:I neat key 2-1 ggs

OMG U NEAT KEY?!!!!

**Adept VantageSP** 2011-12-30, 07:47

Silly Wabbit, Key never loses.

**Tarantila** 2011-12-30, 08:20

Celtic wrote:
Xb-Eazy wrote:I neat key 2-1 ggs

OMG U NEAT KEY?!!!!

2-1 is a bad results against an avarge duelists, who using fun deck. [EX] The Exile VS Aesir Warriors [AW] - {EX Wins} 2859867778

**Xb-Eazy** 2011-12-30, 09:11

some people just take DN too serious

**Joco** 2011-12-30, 12:27

lol

Won 2-1 vs Mizukage. Long Games.

**ancientman7** 2011-12-30, 14:34

Since DesignerDrugs D/C late in the duel. I technically would of won with DH and tour guide with the next draw. It was in Game 3.

https://imgur.com/70JIb

**Designer Drugs** 2011-12-30, 14:40

No, you wouldn't get a next turn lol. I was searching for a ruling if creature swap'ed karakuris change position when attacked. Question which seems that nobody from DN admins was able to answer to. I win anyway.

Summon Ninishi/Saizan in ATK, change to DEF, use creature swap. Give Ninishi/Saizan, get dino.

2600 ATK against 0 ATK monster = 2600 damage.
1900 ATK against clear field = WRECKED.

https://2img.net/r/ihimg/photo/my-images/6/123cld.jpg/

**Nelrick** 2011-12-30, 14:47

A Creature Swapped Karakuri will change his position lol, Why wouldnt it?
Could you have dropped His LP to Zero that turn?
Cause im seeing you were gonna CS his saber for a karakuri destroy it with W/e then direct with the syncro. I dunno if im missing something. His Lp would have been 250 at the end.

**TamACOPY** 2011-12-30, 14:48

Designer Drugs clearly had game that turn. Look back at his post.

**Designer Drugs** 2011-12-30, 14:50

Depends, if that's right I would have summoned saizan or ninishi in def, you want a screen showing i had saizan in deck?

**Nelrick** 2011-12-30, 15:13

Not really (of the screen lol).
YOu could use burei to change ninishi to defense, then use Swap.
That was game for you.
But you D/ced and like it has happened to everyone in a war who was winning or was gonna win its a redo according to the rules isnt it?

**TamACOPY** 2011-12-30, 15:17

No, a redo is applied when there is no clear win condition or decisive advantage for either side.

A game loss is given if a player player was going to lose that turn or would inevitably lose an upcoming turn.

**Nelrick** 2011-12-30, 15:23

So, If you have game And you D/C its still your win?

Because So far since the wars began i have seen (And thought) that a D/c was at best:
_Player who didnt D/C gets the win.
and at worst:
-Redo.

If its like the first sentence then i dont know why this is taking so long.

**Designer Drugs** 2011-12-30, 15:26

Nelrick wrote:So, If you have game And you D/C its still your win?

Because So far since the wars began i have seen (And thought) that a D/c was at best:
_Player who didnt D/C gets the win.
and at worst:
-Redo.

If its like the first sentence then i dont know why this is taking so long.

I didn't simply DC, Tama explained you what happens when a player dc's.
Can't you AT guys be more reasonable? I was going to click summon, then battle phase and then attack and it was game, what is there to redo?

**ancientman7** 2011-12-30, 15:30

I never seen anyone d/c and just to simply win. Thats not how if goes. If you want a redo fine with me.

Lets say thats a game 3 tie since no one agrees on this.

**Designer Drugs** 2011-12-30, 15:35

ancientman7 wrote:I never seen anyone d/c and just to simply win. Thats not how if goes. If you want a redo fine with me.

Lets say thats a game 3 tie since no one agrees on this.

And I have never seen more pathetic people then you guys here in DN teams. It was obviously my win, it's like I was going to click attack but just disconnected. Can't you see that I was going to win? There is no need for a re-match, I beat you fair and square.

**Nelrick** 2011-12-30, 15:36

I didn't simply DC, Tama explained you what happens when a player dc's.

Cant i ask for confirmation on something i have never seen so far?
I have never seen that when a player D/c if he has game he still wins.
I always thought That at best a player got a redo, Thats why im asking for confirmation _-.

Can't you AT guys be more reasonable? I was going to click summon, then battle phase and then attack and it was game, what is there to redo?

More reasonable? did you read at all what i posted?
So, If you have game And you D/C its still your win?<- this is the first sentence lol.
If its like the first sentence then i dont know why this is taking so long.

What did you understand from that? If you should be awarded game i dont see why this is taking so long, Now should i say it more clearer?

EDIT: YUSOMAD?

And I have never seen more pathetic people then you guys here in DN teams.

[14:44:36] [Designer Drugs]
The battle position of monsters affected by "Creature Swap" may be changed by card effects the turn "Creature Swap" was activated.
[14:44:36] [Designer Drugs]
U
[14:44:37] [Designer Drugs]
ALL
[14:44:37] [Designer Drugs]
SUCK
[14:44:39] [Designer Drugs]
GODDAMN IT

Lol. Flaming over a game isnt pathetic at all.

**ancientman7** 2011-12-30, 15:40

Designer Drugs wrote:
ancientman7 wrote:I never seen anyone d/c and just to simply win. Thats not how if goes. If you want a redo fine with me.

Lets say thats a game 3 tie since no one agrees on this.

And I have never seen more pathetic people then you guys here in DN teams. It was obviously my win, it's like I was going to click attack but just disconnected. Can't you see that I was going to win? There is no need for a re-match, I beat you fair and square.

I also saw u have problems with the team rocket war for using ocg cards. And now you're trying to prove the same thing here with the d/c issue. Does that even make you self a victor. "Don't think so"

Either do the redo or I get the win. Final call.

**Zero2Hero** 2011-12-30, 15:42

The thing is that DD had the game that turn unless you had something to stop him.
D/C or not, the result of the match was very clear as the match was basically already over.

**Designer Drugs** 2011-12-30, 15:44

ancientman7 wrote:
Designer Drugs wrote:
ancientman7 wrote:I never seen anyone d/c and just to simply win. Thats not how if goes. If you want a redo fine with me.

Lets say thats a game 3 tie since no one agrees on this.

And I have never seen more pathetic people then you guys here in DN teams. It was obviously my win, it's like I was going to click attack but just disconnected. Can't you see that I was going to win? There is no need for a re-match, I beat you fair and square.

I also saw u have problems with the team rocket war for using ocg cards. And now you're trying to prove the same thing here with the d/c issue. Does that even make you self a victor. "Don't think so"

Either do the redo or I get the win. Final call.

Okay, that is another war, no connection to this one. Now answer me: If I wouldn't disconnect, would I win according to my gameplay? Just answer to that and tell me for who is fair to win.
About the other war, I was willing to keep that card in hand and do nothing with it since I didn't know it was oocg, but I am willing to replay that game.

**ancientman7** 2011-12-30, 15:45

Only if u didnt d/c chances are in your favor.

**TamACOPY** 2011-12-30, 15:49

Nelrick wrote:So, If you have game And you D/C its still your win?

That is obviously the event of an accidental Disconnection. If the disconnected player has an absolutely clear win condition for that turn, or a totally decisive advantage over their opponent, the correct procedure is to award the disconnected player with the game win.

Generally the losing player, in good sportsmanship, agrees to give the win to his opponent, regardless of the disconnection. That is the reason that these issues are not commonly seen.

Example:

It is Player A's turn. Player B has 1000 LP, no cards on the field, and only 1 Normal Spell on his hand. Player A activates Monster Reborn and targets Dark Magician. Then Player A's side of the game starts to lag and eventually disconnects.

A game win should be awarded to Player A regardless of the accidental disconnection.

DN is a online game, accidental disconnections in such scenarios may happen. For this reason, these situations ought to be managed that way in order to keep the game fair, without rule-sharking and with a good sportsmanship.

**Designer Drugs** 2011-12-30, 15:50

@Nelrick: that flaming part, was in hamachi (not related to DN), a resp to 2 guys that used to say that when I get a ruling wrong, so I just thought saying that would be funny and ironic, get your facts straight before you even try posting.

**Zero2Hero** 2011-12-30, 15:52

TamA wrote:
Nelrick wrote:So, If you have game And you D/C its still your win?

That is obviously the event of an accidental Disconnection. If the disconnected player has an absolutely clear win condition for that turn, or a totally decisive advantage over their opponent, the correct procedure is to award the disconnected player with the game win.

Generally the losing player, in good sportsmanship, agrees to give the win to his opponent, regardless of the disconnection. That is the reason that these issues are not commonly seen.

Example:

It is Player A's turn. Player B has 1000 LP, no cards on the field, and only 1 Normal Spell on his hand. Player A activates Monster Reborn and targets Dark Magician. Then Player A's side of the game starts to lag and eventually disconnects.

A game win should be awarded to Player A regardless of the accidental disconnection.

DN is a online game, accidental disconnections in such scenarios may happen. For this reason, these situations ought to be managed that way in order to keep the game fair, without rule-sharking and with a good sportsmanship.

Which is why Designer Drugs is the Winner of that Duel, final decision.

The war should now continue from this point, as there is no reason to argue of the this fact that DD won.

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