Siding Mechanism

**Black Luster SoldierCOPY** 2011-10-22, 23:18

Concerning the siding mechanism, there are a few user interface ideas I have been considering. The intention of this poll is to gain some insight into what most users would prefer before actual coding gets done.

Multi-card selection with swap button

This method involves clicking cards in main/side/extra decks to select them, and then click "Swap" to swap their locations in the deck constructor. For example, a user may click 2 cards in the side deck and 2 cards in the main deck, and then click "Swap" to swap the side deck cards with the main deck cards.

Single card swap

This method is similar to the previous, except cards are swapped one at a time. The user clicks a card in the side deck and then clicks a card in the main/extra deck, swapping the locations of those 2 cards. This mechanism forces swapping cards one at a time, but skips the extra step of clicking "Swap". This single-card swap can also be done via drag-and-drop.

Drag-and-drop with smaller main deck cards

This method is identical to the current mechanism in the deck constructor, except that the cards in the main deck are shrunk down to the size of the cards in the side/extra decks. The main deck cards have to be shrunk down because side decking requires extra room for swapping. Example: a user running 60/15/15 will be unable to perform siding without extra room. Room for 75/30/30 will give them enough room to side comfortably.

Drag-and-drop with expanding areas

This idea is identical to the previous, except that the deck cards will not be shrunk. Instead, the deck/side/extra regions will expand when you hover over them. The expanded area will provide room for more cards in each region.

- BLS

**Key** 2011-10-22, 23:20

I love you
Because this is awesome :D

**coolchemist2001** 2011-10-22, 23:22

I know it's not about the $$$, but this hard work deserves a donation. *Opens his cheque book*

**Red_Chaos** 2011-10-22, 23:24

i like the multi swap function but whatever is is possible please get it done

**Tsunayoshi** 2011-10-22, 23:30

Voted for Multi Swap, but Single Swap would be just as welcome.

**Adept VantageSP** 2011-10-22, 23:31

Tsunayoshi wrote:Voted for Multi Swap, but Single Swap would be just as welcome.

This.

**Kai'en** 2011-10-22, 23:34

I love read this one

**Lovelace** 2011-10-22, 23:35

does this mean match duels are coming?

**Tsunayoshi** 2011-10-22, 23:38

N Harmonia wrote:does this mean match duels are coming?

Not to be Captain Obvious, but the point of the thread is to vote on a siding system to be implemented on DN. I would assume that means Match Play is coming.

**Roxzen** 2011-10-22, 23:47

I'm liking the single swap idea. Drag and drop is fun!

**DefiniteOtaku** 2011-10-23, 00:17

BLS, I applaud this. All these great changes, so quickly, after a huge gap of nothingness. You sure know how to keep us on our toes.

**{EX} TheVoid** 2011-10-23, 00:23

Single swap is my choice, though Id like Multi too.

Fun fact: Thought the topic was called "Sliding mechanism" not "Siding Mechanism" so I was completely confused the first time I read it.

**Lovelace** 2011-10-23, 00:36

DefiniteOtaku wrote:BLS, I applaud this. All these great changes, so quickly, after a huge gap of nothingness. You sure know how to keep us on our toes.

Why u no +rep him then?

**Roxzen** 2011-10-23, 00:39

N Harmonia wrote:
DefiniteOtaku wrote:BLS, I applaud this. All these great changes, so quickly, after a huge gap of nothingness. You sure know how to keep us on our toes.

Why u no +rep him then?

Good idea.

*reps*

Anyway, the match feature will greatly help me in testing decks for IRL. Thanks, BLS.

**Beyond Birthday** 2011-10-23, 00:45

i think Multi-card selection with swap button is the faster and better Option 4 a match duel Smile

Off Topic : if this match duel thing is really happening then this will surely be an a Evolution Step 4 DN ,, i mean in next years we may be playing Tag Duels or even Auto Dueling instead of manual O_o ,,

Well this is no dream because i trust DN Staff may do it one day ,,

**Sevenfold Avenger** 2011-10-23, 00:50

Voted for the Multi-card selection with swap button. It's the most logical.

**DarkRiku** 2011-10-23, 02:38

Multi-card selection with swap button for me please.

From the votes I think it is obvious what the choice is going to be.

**Phraxure** 2011-10-23, 09:32

Best update yet?

**Edward** 2011-10-23, 09:36

Le proness 8D

**ammar 2000** 2011-10-23, 09:48

multi swap
(:
Very Happy

**KaousFaustXIII** 2011-10-23, 09:56

Drag-and-drop with smaller main deck cards sounds more feasible and convenient, since you just need to tweak the deck constructor a bit, and drag-and-drop is already familiar to all users so putting a different style of modifying deck cards would be kinda odd...

**WinterKirby** 2011-10-23, 11:54

Definitely the Multi-Swap.

**nakata** 2011-10-24, 14:30

I voted "single swap"

The multi-Swap option is great... But noobs exist and they will be pised of becose they cant send 2 cards from side deck to deck and send none to side Smile

So... I think 1 by 1 is easiest to do and will have less problems with new players

**3E-hero neos** 2011-10-24, 14:39

Selected single swap, just my personal preference.

Anyway, +rep for our ~~boss~~ ~~king~~ god!

**GRIMLOCK** 2011-10-24, 15:14

Voted Multi-Swap, it get's things done faster,

and since what you took out should be the same to what you sided in as mentioned in the rules, that would be the best option,

Two Thumbs Up on this, +Rep added cheers

Question? Since this involves the Match System, how does Dueling Network keep Tab or note of who won game 1 or 2?? is there a button there saying you won or lose game 1 or game 2...either going to game 3 or ending at game 2??

**[EP] Irate** 2011-10-24, 16:09

Voted for Multiple Choice.
Makes things quicker, we do not need another wast eof time lie the shuffle ( I do not say anything against shuffling, it just takes horribly long to shuffle, and it is extreme with a slow connection).
Match System will prolly not be added, I think...

**Miror B.** 2011-10-24, 16:17

Chose drag and drop with small pics. Just seems a bit easier to me than clicking 2 cards and swapping like that.
Though looking at results it seems like the winner is obvious XD

**someone_else** 2011-10-24, 20:23

Irate_God wrote:Voted for Multiple Choice.
Makes things quicker, we do not need another wast eof time lie the shuffle ( I do not say anything against shuffling, it just takes horribly long to shuffle, and it is extreme with a slow connection).
Match System will prolly not be added, I think...

not to call you stupid or anything like that, but we probably wouldn't be voting on a way to implement side-decking if there wasn't going to be a match feature. Just sayin. Siding Mechanism 2859867778

**Nelrick** 2011-10-24, 20:37

So the cat is out of the bad....
Yeah guys matches are coming (Captain Obvious i know but hell look 2 posts up)

TBH every one of the choice are fine
I just went with the one that seems faster. When matches are done idt people will complain about the siding mechanism TBH but good poll nonetheless

**ShinyHydreigon** 2011-10-25, 00:00

I like them, don't really care.

**MultiJazzBeat** 2011-10-26, 18:53

We can finally use a side deck...
(Gives BLS a hug) You are awesome!

**Phoenix Wright** 2011-10-26, 19:10

Honestly, just get a crude side mechanic on DN, then update it

**Prince Vegeta** 2011-10-26, 23:04

well is there a date for this to be implemented into DN?

**Tsunayoshi** 2011-10-26, 23:16

Axel VIII wrote:well is there a date for this to be implemented into DN?

Yeah. When BLS gets finished making and testing the new system.

**Aquasonic** 2011-10-27, 04:11

And now siding is on DN! I'm glad to see it Smile

Good job

**DarkRiku** 2011-10-27, 04:34

DN just got better.

BLS going to run for a Noble Peace Prize or something with his genius?

Maybe he will do like Kaiba did and end up making Duel Disk like in the show.

**3E-hero neos** 2011-10-27, 05:25

DarkRiku wrote:DN just got better.

BLS going to run for a Noble Peace Prize or something with his genius?

Maybe he will do like Kaiba did and end up making Duel Disk like in the show.

Why do I think BLS will actually do that?

Thanks man, I really appreciate the work BLS!

**Phraxure** 2011-10-27, 06:46

BLS you ARE the best! Very Happy

Sliding mechanism is awesome, and loving the Halloween theme to DN, please keep it up, your work is amazing!

**the_knight** 2011-10-27, 07:47

you know to me and possibly to others making each game a 3 round manditory could be bad i know somtimes i only have time for one quick round maybe think instead of trying to make it all manditory try like a sub bracket system under ranked and unranked that would still be one round or even just drop trad for one round matches cuz honestly not many people play trad anyway

but i also want to say thank you i play in real life and this is such a relief not having to buy all the cards i am pretty broke and i feel bad you are doing all this work wish i could help lol but thank you bls for all the effort you freaking rock bro

oh and btw happy bday

**Pumpknight** 2011-10-27, 13:20

BLS that pumpkin is absolutely beautiful...You made my day Very Happy

**GRIMLOCK** 2011-10-27, 13:57

Update! Rematch with siding (10/27/11)
You can now rematch your opponents and side between duels! At this moment rematches are optional. Enforced full matches is planned for a future release.

Wow That was Fast,

so does it mean you get more points in Ranked if you go into a Match Duel??

a very welcome HALLOWEEN GIFT, THANKS BLS!! cheers

**Raye** 2011-10-27, 14:23

Yay Now i can have more fun and test my only irl deck i have thanks BLS your the best

**DarkRiku** 2011-10-28, 05:49

I don't think enforced matches is the way to go. Keep them optional. Not everyone wants to play a full match. It is something that should be the players choice.

**Phraxure** 2011-10-28, 08:34

Enforced matches will be for tournaments I would have thought, but yeah they shouldn't be for every single duel you do.

**GRIMLOCK** 2011-10-31, 15:52

Update! Rematch with siding (10/27/11)
You can now rematch your opponents and side between duels! At this moment rematches are optional. Enforced full matches is planned for a future release.

Im Hoping they would also make adjustment to the point system along the way, where

2-0 get's the most point,
2-1 - 2nd most points,
1-2 - 3rd most points,
0-2 - you still get points since you completed the match,
Those who PRESSED the Quit Button - get's a negative REP and the opponent gets positive REP,
Internet connection disconnected or computer disconnected - up to BLS how to point system it,

Im in full support of the ENFORCED FULL MATCHES!! cheers

**Atticus Rhodes** 2011-10-31, 16:41

I don't see why we would need to enforce match duels... Not everyone wants to play two/three games with the same person in a row, and they shouldn't be penalized for it... Deck testing? Also there will be times where they might not have time to complete the match, and single duels are completely fine. Besides, match duels are usually only played in tourneys and wars. Unless agreed between members, most of the time they'll finish their duel and move on.

While enforcing match duels helps with distributing points more accurately among those who actually deserve it, I still don't think it's a good idea. Perhaps awarding less points to single duels than given now, and more to those who play matches.

**Sevenfold Avenger** 2011-11-01, 02:30

Match duels should not be mandatory/and or enforced for obvious reasons already pointed out ITT.

Nonetheless just stopping by to say thanks for adding this feature it was desperately need.

**TamACOPY** 2011-11-01, 02:39

"Enforced full matches is planned for a future release."

That means that you'll be able to pick between single duels and full (enforced) matches, not that all games will be matches.

**Sevenfold Avenger** 2011-11-01, 02:45

TamA wrote:"Enforced full matches is planned for a future release."

That means that you'll be able to pick between single duels and full (enforced) matches, not that all games will be matches.

Good to know. At least that way people won't join duels that the host asks to be a match and then quit after one game (win or lose)

**GRIMLOCK** 2011-11-01, 22:17

TamA wrote:"Enforced full matches is planned for a future release."

That means that you'll be able to pick between single duels and full (enforced) matches, not that all games will be matches.

I see,

so there would be a button before the match for both players to choose from?

like single duel button

or

Match Button cheers

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