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Mystical Space Typhoon Does NOT Negate, True or False?

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Post  whysoserious 2011-07-24, 20:35

I'm sure it's true but somebody I played against just did not get it, and it should not matter if it's a quick play spell:

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Mystical Space Typhoon Does NOT Negate, True or False?  Fk1d78

Mystical Space Typhoon Does NOT Negate, True or False?  2w3ntpw

Here's the original conversation we had:

him: gl

him: u have an otk exodia deck right

me: hmm.. or do i?

him: eff

me loose 1800 life points

him: u loose300 more cause of the effect

me loose 300 life points

me loose 200 life points

him: hey

him: ?

him: i attack

me: kb is kinda messed up

me gained 200 life points

me loose 5000 life points (he attacked once each with the 2500 atk monsters)

me: use effect?

him: effect

me: effect again?

him: eff

me: any counter traps after the second effect?

him: ha

him: mst

me: I knew you would use that effect so I had to play mallet first

him: i use mst

me: but the 7000 lp difference is there so if not negated it's a tie

me: pick one

him: what?

him: i use the other effect

me: it's a tie if sdb is not negated

me: but you used it on the mallet

me: and the first button

him: 1 ofit

him: i used

him: the right one

him: then i use the left one

him: and used mst

me: no you used the eff on the mallet

me: then I chain button

him: there is 2

me: then you chain with the eff of the monster

him: but mst is a fast play

me: then I chain witht button

me: then you chain mst

him: yea

him: s its destroyed

me: mst destroys 1 button, but it's not negated

me: only 1 of the buttons are negated bby the monster eff

him: and mst

him: is on the other

me: it said once per turn, you used it the first time on mallet

him: i have 2

me: then on the first button

him: of those monster so

him: i used one on that spell card

me: that's already 2 uses

him: no

me: 1 on mallet then 1 on button

him: so i use

him: yea

him: and mst on the other buttn

me: but I chain the button to the second use of the monster eff

him: as in mystial space typhoon

me: mst only destroys not negate

him: its a fast play

me: so button still resolves

him: its a fast play

him: and

him: your trap is

him: not a fast play

me: destroyed but still a tie

him: no

him: do u under stand what fast play means

me: spell speed 2 can be chained against spell speed 2

me: mst is spell speed 2, and so is button

him: my spell is a fast play type card

him: its right under the title of the name

him: and look at yours

him: u blind or something

me: unless you had a counter trap which is spell speed 3 like solemn judgment, then I cannot chain a button

him: u stupid

me: normal traps are speed 2 just like fast play

me: ask in the forums

him: idiot

He leaves the duel
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Post  KaousFaustXIII 2011-07-24, 20:41

tl;dr

you already know the answer
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Post  Adept VantageSP 2011-07-24, 20:42

MST does not negate. I do not know how so many people think this. Nowhere on the card does it say "Negate and destroy" or just "negate". All it says is target and destroy. Even if you MSted let us say, "Allure of Darkness", Allure gets destroyed by MST and the effect still goes off. Allure is not negated, it is just destroyed. I would say "Congrats, you just wasted an MST!:.
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Post  Zero2Hero 2011-07-24, 20:44

MST does not negate. People still don't know this...?
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Post  Adept VantageSP 2011-07-24, 20:49

Zero2Hero wrote:MST does not negate. People still don't know this...?
It amazes me that this is still an issue. People like to assume their cards do stuff rather than reading them sometimes.
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Post  {EX} TheVoid 2011-07-24, 20:56

This is something I lul about all the time. People dont seem to understand that cards resolve even when destroyed, unless specifically saying otherwise.
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Post  Adept VantageSP 2011-07-24, 20:58

To avoid redundancy I will lock this topic.
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