Gate of the Dark World

Let confirm this :

Is removing fiend to discard a fiend to draw a card is a cost ?

My opp (nicname bato) just ragequit beause he didn't knew that, when I remove his Goldd, he quit even he using such cheap deck against my tier-3 / lower deck


This is same hate as nubs who said their field destroy my field after I chain their new field with MST

Banish here is cost. But how can you banish your opponent's Goldd?

He return the cost (banished monster, goldd) back to graveyard.

So I click his grave, and banish it.. and opp ragequits
WTF man... you are running dark world, with gate.. against my E-hero, and quits after i fought back so hard against my opp deck, ( dunno where he got that receipe)

you can't use the opponents field eff... you only get the 300 bonus. And since when does a hero deck run fiends?^^
You can only activate an effect if you know that it can resolve properly, when you don't have a fiend in hand to discard you can't activate it.
And besides that: you can't use your opponents cards as costs unless the card states so...

Yes only your opp can activate the eff of the field spell; plus if you think about it field spells wouldnt be as effective as giving you a field advantage compared to any equip spell^^

There only few Field Spell that can be activated by both players regardless of the owner, but I can't remember them all, one of them is Mausoleum of the Emperor.

Yeah, and those field spells specifically say "both players" or something similar

dest wrote:you can't use the opponents field eff... you only get the 300 bonus. And since when does a hero deck run fiends?^^
You can only activate an effect if you know that it can resolve properly, when you don't have a fiend in hand to discard you can't activate it.
And besides that: you can't use your opponents cards as costs unless the card states so...

Evil Heroes are fiend

No, I don't use my opp field spells, its the opp who use his own field spell.

The situation: When he activated it (Field Spell Gate), I use/chain MST, suppose he pay the cost (goldd banished), but he return goldd after I use MST. WTF !

So I remove back his returned goldd from his graveyard to his RFG zone, then he ragequits immediately after seeing goldd being removed. WTF !! IT IS A COST !!! YOU PLAY DARK WORLD AND YOU DIDN"T KNOW YOUR OWN CARD ?
**RAGE**


^ Note Thia was meant to my Opp in duel, not poster in here

oh i see, then i guess you have a right to rage^^

And regarding Field Spell... I believe I can use my opp Fusion Gate to fusion my heroes on my side

And using opp skyscrapper (thou its not "active").

Wish Konami make more clear text like skyscrapper 2 that it clearly state only user who can use its effect

Yes that would help a lot.

btw fusion gate targets fusion monsters on field and doesnt refer the controller of the card like gate. e.g gate says "You can..."

This is same hate as nubs who said their field destroy my field after I chain their new field with MST

why did you write this in black ?i almost miss it

Banishing one Fiend-Type monster from your Graveyard is a cost to activate the effect.

^ocg...........

i didn't find any for TCG >,>

Phoenix wrote:btw fusion gate targets fusion monsters on field and doesnt refer the controller of the card like gate. e.g gate says "You can..."

Only the controller can activate its own field spell's effect

kyubey wrote:

Banishing one Fiend-Type monster from your Graveyard is a cost to activate the effect.

^ocg...........

i didn't find any for TCG >,>

No contradictions = Same ruling

kangtuji wrote:Let confirm this :

Is removing fiend to discard a fiend to draw a card is a cost ?

My opp (nicname bato) just ragequit beause he didn't knew that, when I remove his Goldd, he quit even he using such cheap deck against my tier-3 / lower deck


This is same hate as nubs who said their field destroy my field after I chain their new field with MST

That's the question, not if both players can use it or not.
Anyway, the answer is, Banishing 1 Fiend from the grave is the cost, the rest is part of the effect. The reason you only found ocg rulings is because the DW cards aren't released in tcg yet, only announced with their SD, they'll be in TCG soon.

Key wrote:

Phoenix wrote:btw fusion gate targets fusion monsters on field and doesnt refer the controller of the card like gate. e.g gate says "You can..."

Only the controller can activate its own field spell's effect

kyubey wrote:

Banishing one Fiend-Type monster from your Graveyard is a cost to activate the effect.

^ocg...........

i didn't find any for TCG >,>

No contradictions = Same ruling

I remembered that Fusion Gate works for both players regardless of their controller.

Yes, both players can use Fusion Gate
:/

Fusion Gate is a different card, Konami made different wording and different rulings.