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Post  matt.dekok 2011-10-05, 12:29

Several people seem to think that Mystical Space Typhoon negates the activation of Gates' effect after it has been activated.

Wiki wrote:One should be careful though about the difference between simply destroying a card and negating the effects of that card. For example, activating "Mystical Space Typhoon" on "Magic Cylinder" would not stop the damage being reflected back as "Mystical Space Typhoon" does not say 'Negate the effects of...' therefore you have more or less wasted the use of a card.

What is the difference? Am I right or are they?
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Post  3E-hero neos 2011-10-05, 12:32

Gate has to resolve entirely before it can be used, when activated, only the card is activated, not the effect yet. When your opponent uses MST on it in a chain before it fully resolves, it will be destroyed before you can do anything with it.
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Post  Breaker 2011-10-05, 12:32

Continous Spells/Traps and Field Spells must remain on the field when resolving. MST does not specifically negates them, but they won't get their effects. It's like Sakuretsu Armoring a monster. Sakuretsu Armor does not negate the attack. However, the attack won't go through. Like if a Six Samurai saves the one who's about to destroy, the attack goes through.
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Post  matt.dekok 2011-10-05, 13:26

Finally found proof... took a while but I found proof for... OCG that is

"Mystical Space Typhoon" and "Dust Tornado" do not negate the effects of cards they destroy. So Spell and Trap Cards that "Mystical Space Typhoon" is chained to may still resolve if they are in the Graveyard. However the effects of Continuous and Equip Cards need to remain on the field to resolve, so their effects are not applied if they are destroyed.
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Post  ancientman7 2011-10-05, 16:38

Mystical space typhoon can negate gates once your opp removes a fiend monster as a cost.


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Post  Thanax42 2011-10-05, 17:54

ancientman7 wrote:Mystical space typhoon can negate gates once your opp removes a dark world monster as a cost.

It can DESTROY it after a Fiend is removed from grave so the effect won´t resolve, please don´t confuse things anymore MST DOESN´T NEGATES.
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Post  kangtuji 2011-10-05, 18:30

ancientman7 wrote:Mystical space typhoon can negate gates once your opp removes a fiend monster as a cost.

This is so wrong
MST does NOT negate

Continous Spells/Traps and Field Spells must remain on the field when resolving.

And removing/banishing 1 fiend is a cost for Gates.

But I am not sure you can chain MST when remove the fiend, or only had chance when they activate gate at beginning.... since you cann't doing anything in the middle of resolutions

tldr;In this case. even MST does not negate it will prevent gate discarding fiend to graveyard because (again, as many poeple told this already) Continous Spells/Traps and Field Spells must remain on the field when resolving.


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Post  ancientman7 2011-10-05, 18:35

Ok let me make this clear. Mystical space typhoon can be chained when your opponent removes a fiend type monster since it is a cost. Your opponent cannot discard bc it will not resolve.
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