It's just a Children's Card Game

Alright here's the deal, too many DN people have this belief that since it's a fun game, they don't have to follow the rules. For example, I dueled some guy's Dragunity deck, and set MST and had a face-up Scrap Archfiend. Next turn, he reborns a previously destroyed Stardust Dragon, and then summoned Dux, when Dux equips Phlanax I MST it. Now at this point he says,"On second thought" then he sends SD to grave and says he will use Reborn on phlanax instead. Now if he had immediately switched the monsters summoned after using reborn, I wouldn't have cared cuz shit happens, but waiting till u see one of my face-down cards then wanting to replay a whole turn so that i allows you to get an unfair advantage is unfair. Now this is where it gets interesting, the same guy told me that it's just a children's game and I wanted the win badly(all before he rage-quit btw). In whatever case, a game has RULES, and even if it's fun, you follow them. You wouldn't honestly tell me that in a fun game of basketball, you would run without ever letting the ball touch the ground, in which case the game is no longer basketball. My question is why is it that ppl try to use the whole,"It's just a fun game so it doesn't matter when I do this" excuse? True that noobs will be noobs but this is fucking ridiculous.

This is manual-simulation of YGO card game, and a Noob that u said just do what he did when duel iRL (not a Tournament one, just ordinary duel). While duel in Regionals, YCS, or other Tournament, redo a whole turn is not allowed. just put "no under 7 years old" in ur duel note.

Is it really just Children's card game?
Look at this:

Spoiler:

Then say to me if it's still a children's card game with a proof

The games description on card boxes does say ages 4 and up. just sayin.

Children's card game?
Please, people lose their souls on a daily basis, this is a very important part of life.

Look at how many times those pieces of cardboard saved the world.

LegendaryFrost wrote:Alright here's the deal, too many DN people have this belief that since it's a fun game, they don't have to follow the rules. For example, I dueled some guy's Dragunity deck, and set MST and had a face-up Scrap Archfiend. Next turn, he reborns a previously destroyed Stardust Dragon, and then summoned Dux, when Dux equips Phlanax I MST it. Now at this point he says,"On second thought" then he sends SD to grave and says he will use Reborn on phlanax instead. Now if he had immediately switched the monsters summoned after using reborn, I wouldn't have cared cuz shit happens, but waiting till u see one of my face-down cards then wanting to replay a whole turn so that i allows you to get an unfair advantage is unfair. Now this is where it gets interesting, the same guy told me that it's just a children's game and I wanted the win badly(all before he rage-quit btw). In whatever case, a game has RULES, and even if it's fun, you follow them. You wouldn't honestly tell me that in a fun game of basketball, you would run without ever letting the ball touch the ground, in which case the game is no longer basketball. My question is why is it that ppl try to use the whole,"It's just a fun game so it doesn't matter when I do this" excuse? True that noobs will be noobs but this is fucking ridiculous.

Why so much swearing?
And some people are new to this game/ do not follow rules. I know in this case, you are saying that the guy said it's just a children's card game. And everyone who plays knows it is not. It takes a lot of strategy and though and effort, more than most children can handle. I just suggest less swearing. and maybe a screenshot to report the guy. And people do this just to be jerks, people are jerks in real life, hence you'll find some jerks online. Just try to enjoy the game, play fairly, and report anyone who isn't doing so

Just because the game has many levels and can become very complex doesn't mean it's not a children's game at it's conception. Case in point I know a 12 year old on DN who's a damn good duelist. And I was still in elementary school when Yugioh first came state side and was playing it (by the rules) back then. Most of us hated being underestimated when we were children. Don't underestimate the children of today.

My point is this, just because it is a game(a game originally made to please little kids for that matter) doesn't mean that ppl should just throw the rules out the window. As for the swearing, I sometimes naturally swear a lot :S

Eliwood wrote:Children's card game?
Please, people lose their souls on a daily basis, this is a very important part of life.

Look at how many times those pieces of cardboard saved the world.

I thought about this for a little while... Then lol'd at it.

The game is promoted for kids but is played seriously by teens and adults.

Plenty of exceptions to this but pretty much still the way it is.

LegendaryFrost wrote:My point is this, just because it is a game(a game originally made to please little kids for that matter) doesn't mean that ppl should just throw the rules out the window. As for the swearing, I sometimes naturally swear a lot :S

I agree and that's basically what i said :p

I don't know a single kid that plays his game... It's too dang complicated.

LuzCeleste wrote:I don't know a single kid that plays his game... It's too dang complicated.

i see children and they usually run heroes or blackwings. and they always lose.

LuzCeleste wrote:I don't know a single kid that plays his game... It's too dang complicated.

Then again you only know a limited amount of kids. As would any of us. And IDK i didn't find it complicated and i had to be like 12 when i first got into Yugioh. Admittedly there was much less variety to the game back then.

The Predator32 wrote:

LuzCeleste wrote:I don't know a single kid that plays his game... It's too dang complicated.

Then again you only know a limited amount of kids. As would any of us. And IDK i didn't find it complicated and i had to be like 12 when i first got into Yugioh. Admittedly there was much less variety to the game back then.

Oh my god... I remember those days...
The most badass monster was Summoned Skull, since he only required one tribute, and you could actually play Raigeki, and they didn't have a ban list like they do now... in fact, the rule book just listed Raigeki, Dark Hole, Monster Reborn, and Exodia(each of the parts)at being only able to have just one in the deck. And MechanicalChaser was the strongest level 4 monster, since it had 1850 atk, while La Jinn only had 1800. And Castle Walls and Reinforcements!!!! Don't get me started.

exiled_force wrote:

The Predator32 wrote:

LuzCeleste wrote:I don't know a single kid that plays his game... It's too dang complicated.

Then again you only know a limited amount of kids. As would any of us. And IDK i didn't find it complicated and i had to be like 12 when i first got into Yugioh. Admittedly there was much less variety to the game back then.

Oh my god... I remember those days...
The most badass monster was Summoned Skull, since he only required one tribute, and you could actually play Raigeki, and they didn't have a ban list like they do now... in fact, the rule book just listed Raigeki, Dark Hole, Monster Reborn, and Exodia(each of the parts)at being only able to have just one in the deck. And MechanicalChaser was the strongest level 4 monster, since it had 1850 atk, while La Jinn only had 1800. And Castle Walls and Reinforcements!!!! Don't get me started.

You forget Jurai Gumo. I never attacked with it but it was good for keeping others from attacking. And yes Summoned Skull was BEAST!!! Forget Blue eyes or Gaia Summoned skull was where it was at. If you summoned Blue eyes you put in WORK and you knew what a ritual was but never seen one in person lol. Also like 90% of your monsters were normal monsters instead of effect mons. ahhh the good ol' days lol.

CheyMcFly wrote:

LuzCeleste wrote:I don't know a single kid that plays his game... It's too dang complicated.

i see children and they usually run heroes or blackwings. and they always lose.

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Throws E-hero Neos card at you >,>'

The card game was not made for children and children only. The anime was directed towards children. "A childrens card game" is just some ####ing meme that came from yugioh abriged

We need a school/academy for educate them about children card game, while riding on motorcycles in space

kangtuji wrote:We need a school/academy for educate them about children card game, while riding on motorcycles in space

Challenge accepted

I'm kinda disappoint. Nobody pointed out he could just negate Mst with Stardust

this game was indeed intended for children. Tied in with the manga/anime which were both targeted at children. However that does not mean ONLY for children. Old farts like myself who refuse to grow up and still read comic books and play video games are still more than welcome to play . "Learned by children, mastered by adults." My new Quote when talking about things normally associated with younguns. Feel free to borrow it.

Ultimate lol wrote:I'm kinda disappoint. Nobody pointed out he could just negate Mst with Stardust

I'm here to point out you can negate MST with... Stardust!!!!!

This game is like baby's first magic. It is not that complicated.

anyone know s where chilli s at in atlanta?

inpachi wrote:This game is like baby's first magic. It is not that complicated.

Neither is Magic. I actually found it easier than Yugioh.

inpachi wrote:This game is like baby's first magic. It is not that complicated.

Actually this game is easy to learn but hard to master. On the surface it is easy but as you dig yourself into it you really learn how complicated it can become.

Nothing childish about it.

I learned most by watching the Anime, then I started playing online, at first with automatic stuff like Joey the passion and the gba/ds games... But it wasn't till I came here that I started to see how complicated the game actually was... Now I just can't see kids playing this game outside of video games... Video games are automatic so it makes it easy.

Sorry if I'm necro-posting, but this seems like an interesting topic.

There are several reasons that children, and many non-children, do not play the game anymore. Here are the ones I've heard:

1. "If you don't run a Cookie-Cutter deck, you don't win."

This is an obvious game design flaw that Konami should have seen coming from the very beginning. Or maybe they did, and decided to capitalise on it. Either way, the fun of the game is its variety, and that factor is absent. It's not like Meta decks are even that good, I find they're easy to moderately difficult to squash in the hands of a less experienced player.

2. "It's too fast. Players summon, like, 5 monsters on their first turn and win."

Another flaw that Konami should have seen coming. Duels are most fun when they are back-and-forth, with the winning player doing so by a slim margin. Swarm tactics limit this feature.

3. "Synchros."

And, presumably, Xyz as well. Introducing these cards changed the basic rules of the game, as well as the basic focus. Plus, they are very archetype-specific. Old-school players are often intimidated by Synchro/Xyz monsters, or just feel that Konami has given up. If they'd made them a sub-group of the Fusion monster category, they might have been easier to integrate.

4. "GX, 5D's and ZEXAL suck."

Not strictly Konami's problem, but still something the powers-that-be should have seen coming.

5. "Ban List."

What can I say? People spend a lot of money on their decks. They will get upset if Konami trashes their hard work. Sure, cards like the Envoys, Raigeki and Harpie's might be too powerful for the game to be fair, but cards like "Pot of Greed" and "Change of Heart" don't make that much difference unless you have problems 1 and 2 as well.

6. "Yugioh's gay."

That might be Konami's fault, but I suspect it's because the teachers at my old school banned the game and encouraged the bullies to pick on anybody who still played outside of school (despite having been fans themselves).