Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
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Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Hi. This has been bugging me for a while, and how the Battle Phase goes can be kind of confusing sometimes.
Here's my question. Morphtronic Radion (1000 ATK/900 DEF) is set face down. He has a Continuous effect that increases the DEF of all Morphtronics (and thus himself) by 1000 when he is in DEF position. Does his effect kick in the moment he is flipped face up from an attacking monster, or is he destroyed when attacked by a monster with 950 or more ATK?
Here's my question. Morphtronic Radion (1000 ATK/900 DEF) is set face down. He has a Continuous effect that increases the DEF of all Morphtronics (and thus himself) by 1000 when he is in DEF position. Does his effect kick in the moment he is flipped face up from an attacking monster, or is he destroyed when attacked by a monster with 950 or more ATK?
Heimdall- Posts : 188
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
I'm pretty sure it activates upon being flipped face up, since the effect is continuous
Phoenix Wright- Posts : 2772
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Radion's continuous eff activates the moment he's in face-up defense position, including when flipped face-up by an attack.
MrChillmatic- Posts : 673
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Just in the same way a set Spirit Reaper is not destroyed by battle even when attacked face down, Radion will "be applied" (not activate) in time.
Vincent- Posts : 572
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
just reinforcing the idea that yes, radion's effect is "applied" not activated.
continuous effects don't activate.
continuous effects don't activate.
Joenen- Posts : 91
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Joenen wrote:just reinforcing the idea that yes, radion's effect is "applied" not activated.
continuous effects don't activate.
QFT
Vincent- Posts : 572
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
My bad, you're right.
Continuous effects don't "activate". If that was the case, Raidon could be Divine Wrath'd when flipped and that's not the case.
Poor wording on my behalf.
Continuous effects don't "activate". If that was the case, Raidon could be Divine Wrath'd when flipped and that's not the case.
Poor wording on my behalf.
MrChillmatic- Posts : 673
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Think Grand Mole effect active when it attacked facedown
or catastor attacked facwdown
or catastor attacked facwdown
kangtuji- Posts : 1611
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Those are totally different cases from this; they don't work because they DO activate.
Vincent- Posts : 572
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Catastor effecet doesn't work if it's attacked face-down or if it attacks a face-down monster.
MrChillmatic- Posts : 673
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
That is what I'm saying.
Vincent- Posts : 572
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Vincent wrote:That is what I'm saying.
Yeah, I'm well aware of it, responding to Kang.
MrChillmatic- Posts : 673
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Redundancy everywhere? I like it.
Vincent- Posts : 572
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Well, to wrap this up:
Continuous effects are applied, not activated.
Continuous effects are applied the moment the monster hits the field.
During battle, monsters are flipped before damage calculation.
-> Radion's effect will apply to himself when attacked face-down.
Lock and move on.
Continuous effects are applied, not activated.
Continuous effects are applied the moment the monster hits the field.
During battle, monsters are flipped before damage calculation.
-> Radion's effect will apply to himself when attacked face-down.
Lock and move on.
storyteller- Posts : 684
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Sorry to nitpick but this is not necessarily true.storyteller wrote:Well, to wrap this up:
Continuous effects are applied the moment the monster hits the field.
Continuous effects such as that of "Giant Kozaky" or "Reptillianne Servent" are only applied after the damage calculation is conducted, if they happen to survive the battle, even though they become face-up on the field way sooner than that.
LittLeD- Posts : 14
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Ah, you're right ._.
Nitpicking is good.
Nitpicking is good.
storyteller- Posts : 684
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Generally monster are needed to survive to activate their effect
(Not confuse it with FLIP effect monster or flip)
Example as gladiator beast
(Not confuse it with FLIP effect monster or flip)
Example as gladiator beast
kangtuji- Posts : 1611
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
Thanks, guys. It was just a confusing issue for me.
From now on, I can surprise people with a 1900 DEF monster, given that he survives, of course xD.
This topic can be closed, since the answer has been provided. Thanks again, everyone.
From now on, I can surprise people with a 1900 DEF monster, given that he survives, of course xD.
This topic can be closed, since the answer has been provided. Thanks again, everyone.
Heimdall- Posts : 188
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Re: Morphtronic Radion Set then flipped.
that is only applied for monster with trigger effect that need to be triggered while face-up on the field.kangtuji wrote:Generally monster are needed to survive to activate their effect
(Not confuse it with FLIP effect monster or flip)
Example as gladiator beast
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