Elemental Hero Captain Gold

Hi guys
I just wanted to know if i can use the effect of Elemental Hero Captain Gold (discarding it to add 1 skyscraper) while i don't have skyscraper in my deck.

You can use it, and after activation you'll see that there is no target in the deck, so you'll send it to grave but you shuffle the deck with no card going to the hand.
This is like Thunder Dragon, when you have one on hand and no one in deck you can send it to grave and see that there is no target card in deck, then shuffle the deck.

Raziel wrote:You can use it, and after activation you'll see that there is no target in the deck, so you'll send it to grave but you shuffle the deck with no card going to the hand.
This is like Thunder Dragon, when you have one on hand and no one in deck you can send it to grave and see that there is no target card in deck, then shuffle the deck.

Sorry but that is a false answer, also you can't target card in the deck.

You cannot manually activate an effect that search or summon a certain card from the deck without having an eligible card in the deck.

so, you cannot activate captain gold effect without having skyscraper in the deck.

Actually, according to the wiki he's right: If there are no copies of "Thunder Dragon" in your deck, then you shuffle your deck and end resolution.[4]

Whether that applies to E HERO CG I'm not sure.

Phraxure wrote:Actually, according to the wiki he's right: If there are no copies of "Thunder Dragon" in your deck, then you shuffle your deck and end resolution.[4]

Whether that applies to E HERO CG I'm not sure.

Yugioh Wikia wrote:You can add either 1 or 2 cards to your hand.[2][4] You cannot choose to add 0 cards to your hand.[4]

Missed that one.

The only situation where you dump Thunder Dragon but adds no card is when you or your opponent chain something to Thunder Dragon effect that involves drawing cards, and you just happen to draw that final Thunder Dragon after the chained effect resolve.

If that make any sense. *shrugs*

Oh I get ya.

Well... back than in GBA, King of The Swamp used to be allowed to discard into graveyard without grabbing poly, but in next game it was changed, you no longer can discard without grabbing

That means that i can't,right?

If you know that at the time of activation (when you're about to discard Gold) that you don't have a Skyscraper in the deck then you can't discard Gold.

You cannot activate the effect of Captian Gold without a valid "choice" in your deck.

Also:

Discarding "Elemental Hero Captain Gold" to the Graveyard is a cost to activate its effect which adds "Skyscraper" to your hand.

thanks but does this go with all effects like E-hero CG?

In order to active certain effects you must be able to pay the cost and have the resolution requirements. You can pay the cost of Gold (discarding) BUT you do not fulfill his resolution requirement of adding "Skyscraper" to your hand.

I'm not sure if you can discard it knowing you don't have a legal target in deck

Think of it like trying to use Premature Burial with no monsters in grave and 8000 life points. In this example you CAN pay the 800lp for activation BUT do not have the requirements to satisfy it's resolution (special summoning 1 eligible monster card from your grave). In this case you cannot use Premature Burial because you can't special summon a monster. In the case of Gold you cannot discard it if you can't add a "Skyscraper" to your hand.

That's what I'm saying : that's an illegal activation since you can't meet the requirements. So you cannot discard if you don't have a correct target in deck.

- you can't activate an effect if you don't have a valid target so you can't pay the cost
- if you accidently activate an effect just undo it...
- if you had a target for the effect at effect activation and don't have a valid target at resolution both players check the affected area (yes, you must show the deck if (for example) you last lightsworn was milled by charge) and then it'll resolve without doing anything.