Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
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Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
After you chain call of the haunted to an MST targeting it, can you select Formula Synchron and chain Formula's effect of synchroing to Call of the Haunted killing it?
zergber- Posts : 44
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
As far as I understand, you can't.
After you summon Formula synchron you're still resolving a chain, and the next card in the chain is MST, so CoTH gets destroyed and so does Formula synchron, before you can activate its effect.
Thats just my thoughts, I could be wrong.
After you summon Formula synchron you're still resolving a chain, and the next card in the chain is MST, so CoTH gets destroyed and so does Formula synchron, before you can activate its effect.
Thats just my thoughts, I could be wrong.
Galkin- Posts : 146
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
Wouldn't the destroying effect create a new chain though?
zergber- Posts : 44
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
do you mean call of the haunted one?
no it doesnt start a chain
no it doesnt start a chain
raidou- Posts : 967
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
Yeah pretty sure CotH would get destroyed before you can use Formula Synchron to Synchro.
You could when a facedown CotH is targeted by MST you can CotH Jinzo. xD Jinzo negates the destruction effect and thus CotH is destroyed but Jinzo remains on the field.
You could when a facedown CotH is targeted by MST you can CotH Jinzo. xD Jinzo negates the destruction effect and thus CotH is destroyed but Jinzo remains on the field.
Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
you know that it is a waste if you try to resurrect formula synchron when being targeted by MST.
ancientman7- [AW] Aesir Warriors
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
to get a formula out with call of the haunted and keep it when call is targeted youll need to have trap stun/ decree set on the field
chain trap stun/decree and chain call of the haunted to it
without it a good choice for call of the haunted when opponent msts it are cards like sangan or x saber dark soul
chain trap stun/decree and chain call of the haunted to it
without it a good choice for call of the haunted when opponent msts it are cards like sangan or x saber dark soul
raidou- Posts : 967
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
If you had another face-up monster and appropriate Synchro Monster in the Extra Deck for those two, you could chain "Formula Synchron" to "Mystical Space Typhoon", and then chain "Call of the Haunted" to "Formula Synchron".
Example:
You control "Formula Synchron" and "Battle Ox", and a face-down "Call of the Haunted". You have "Goyo Guardian" and "Stardust Dragon" in your Extra Deck. Your opponent activates "Mystical Space Typhoon", targeting "Call of the Haunted". Chain "Formula Synchron" (possible thanks to "Goyo Guardian"), and then chain "Call of the Haunted" to Special Summon "Raiza the Storm Monarch".
Chain Link 3: "Raiza the Storm Monarch" is Special Summoned.
Chain Link 2: Tune "Formula Synchron" and "Raiza the Storm Monarch" for "Stardust Dragon".
Chain Link 1: "Call of the Haunted" is destroyed.
Example:
You control "Formula Synchron" and "Battle Ox", and a face-down "Call of the Haunted". You have "Goyo Guardian" and "Stardust Dragon" in your Extra Deck. Your opponent activates "Mystical Space Typhoon", targeting "Call of the Haunted". Chain "Formula Synchron" (possible thanks to "Goyo Guardian"), and then chain "Call of the Haunted" to Special Summon "Raiza the Storm Monarch".
Chain Link 3: "Raiza the Storm Monarch" is Special Summoned.
Chain Link 2: Tune "Formula Synchron" and "Raiza the Storm Monarch" for "Stardust Dragon".
Chain Link 1: "Call of the Haunted" is destroyed.
Magician of Black Chaos- Posts : 60
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
no, you cann't use effect in the middle of resolution
kangtuji- Posts : 1611
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
you get the wrong idea here Magician of Black Chaos, the post owner's idea is when he activate CoTH, targeting Formula Synchron, opponent chain MST to his CoTH, can he use Formula's effect right now or not, not like the situation you use. And Kangtuji, there's nothing wrong with Magician of Black Chaos post, that is a correct action in game.
BlackwingRa- Posts : 832
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
Main Point here is You can't add any chain links in middle of resolving chain.
Chain Link 1: Mystical Space Typhoon Targets Call Of The Hounted face-down
Chain Link 2: Call Of The Haunted activates targeting Formula Synchron in grave
At this point Neither Formula Synchron Summoned is summoned nor Call Of The Haunted is destroyed. If no Further Chain links are added it will Start Resolving
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Chain Link 2 Resolves: Call Of The Haunted summons Formula Synchron, however since the chain is resolving you can't activate Formula Synchron
Chain Link 1 Resolves: Mystical Space Typhoon destroys Call Of The Haunted and Call Of The Haunted destroys Formula Synchron.
So you never get a chance to activate Formula Synchron Eff.
Chain Link 1: Mystical Space Typhoon Targets Call Of The Hounted face-down
Chain Link 2: Call Of The Haunted activates targeting Formula Synchron in grave
At this point Neither Formula Synchron Summoned is summoned nor Call Of The Haunted is destroyed. If no Further Chain links are added it will Start Resolving
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Chain Link 2 Resolves: Call Of The Haunted summons Formula Synchron, however since the chain is resolving you can't activate Formula Synchron
Chain Link 1 Resolves: Mystical Space Typhoon destroys Call Of The Haunted and Call Of The Haunted destroys Formula Synchron.
So you never get a chance to activate Formula Synchron Eff.
Badass_Bunny- Smexy Duelist
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
I see, it seemed too good to be true ...
So if I use call of the haunted before they MST it, then it could work right? unless they chain.
So if I use call of the haunted before they MST it, then it could work right? unless they chain.
zergber- Posts : 44
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
zergber wrote:I see, it seemed too good to be true ...
So if I use call of the haunted before they MST it, then it could work right? unless they chain.
Yes, if they chained MST to Call of the Haunted you wouldn't even be able to summon a monster, but if Call resolves properly summoning Formula and they activate MST later on, you can chain Formula and Synchro Summon.
Supreme_King- Hakuna Matata
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
I assume you mean
call of the haunted(targeting formula)
mystical space typhoon
Formula's effect?
Chains resolve backward, so this is what would happen
Formula Synchron summons a monster (but it really can't since the chain is resolving)
Mystical Destroys call of the haunted
call destroys formula, so it can't synchro
That's what I think, but I would get a judge to check it
call of the haunted(targeting formula)
mystical space typhoon
Formula's effect?
Chains resolve backward, so this is what would happen
Formula Synchron summons a monster (but it really can't since the chain is resolving)
Mystical Destroys call of the haunted
call destroys formula, so it can't synchro
That's what I think, but I would get a judge to check it
Phoenix Wright- Posts : 2772
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
Alright, thanks everyone for your help
zergber- Posts : 44
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
Supreme_King wrote:zergber wrote:I see, it seemed too good to be true ...
So if I use call of the haunted before they MST it, then it could work right? unless they chain.
Yes, if they chained MST to Call of the Haunted you wouldn't even be able to summon a monster, but if Call resolves properly summoning Formula and they activate MST later on, you can chain Formula and Synchro Summon.
Hmmm ?
If you chained MST to CoTH, you still summon a monster
This would work for sangan or dandylion, or E.hero stratos even opp chaining to your CoTH
Same as someone said before they summoned jinzo first before MST destroy coth, and jinzo still alive
kangtuji- Posts : 1611
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
It would work for sangan/dandylion since their effects activae when sent to your graveyard, you can't activate the effect of a monster on the field until it resolves, and it would resolve with it in the graveyard, thus it cannot use the effect
Phoenix Wright- Posts : 2772
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
Pox_Equestria wrote:It would work for sangan/dandylion since their effects activae when sent to your graveyard, you can't activate the effect of a monster on the field until it resolves, and it would resolve with it in the graveyard, thus it cannot use the effect
cannot use which effect ?
kangtuji- Posts : 1611
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
The effect of any monster that's effect activates on the field has to resolve first...
Phoenix Wright- Posts : 2772
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
if you chain mst to coth you don't summon anything. When mst is link 2 it destroys coth bevore it summons...
dest- Boneash
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
Aaaah right ! Same as field spell
I was thinking Coth chained to MST as Original Poster questioned.... getting confused in the middle...
*me gusta face*
I was thinking Coth chained to MST as Original Poster questioned.... getting confused in the middle...
*me gusta face*
kangtuji- Posts : 1611
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
No you summon a mosnter if you chained CoTH to MST not the other way around
Badass_Bunny- Smexy Duelist
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Re: Question about chains... MST -> Call of the Haunted -> Formula Synchron
Yes, its the original question
but few posts laters it got reversed, MST chained to CoTh, not CoTH chained to MST as originally
That why I got confused, yah in that case no monster being summoned
but few posts laters it got reversed, MST chained to CoTh, not CoTH chained to MST as originally
That why I got confused, yah in that case no monster being summoned
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