Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
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Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
Wind-Up Zenmaines
Eff: 2 Level 3 monsters
If this face-up card on the field would be destroyed, you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card instead. Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this effect was used this turn: Target 1 card on the field; destroy it.
Now, if it's destroyed once, a card gets detached. If it gets destroyed a second time, another one gets detached. AND if you destroy it 3x it goes to the grave.
If you can send it to the grave, will its second effect still go on. Will it be able to target 1 card, after detaching and being send to the grave ???
This card is fair new, but a lot of people are allready using it. (including me later on) So I really need to now.
Thx in advance
Eff: 2 Level 3 monsters
If this face-up card on the field would be destroyed, you can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card instead. Once per turn, during the End Phase, if this effect was used this turn: Target 1 card on the field; destroy it.
Now, if it's destroyed once, a card gets detached. If it gets destroyed a second time, another one gets detached. AND if you destroy it 3x it goes to the grave.
If you can send it to the grave, will its second effect still go on. Will it be able to target 1 card, after detaching and being send to the grave ???
This card is fair new, but a lot of people are allready using it. (including me later on) So I really need to now.
Thx in advance
KM888- Posts : 23
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
The card destoying effect is a trigger effect, that triggers during the End Phase, unlike "XX-Saber Darksoul" 's effect, which during the End Phase is already activated, and lingers there. So i assume it has to be face-up on the field to resolve properly.
Breaker- Posts : 78
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
Yes it needs to be face up in end phase so it can destroy if it's not there than it doesn't destroy anything...
Badass_Bunny- Smexy Duelist
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
It's a trigger effect, it doesn't need to be face-up during end phase.
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=3292
If Wind-Up Zenmaines’ protective ability is used, you can destroy any card on the field during the End Phase. Zenmaines is a walking landmine that punishes your opponent for provoking it. If your opponent tries to touch it they’ll have one of their cards blow up at the end of the turn! Your opponent will either leave it alone, or frantically launch a giant assault on it to try and destroy it before it can explode their cards (since its effect won’t activate if it leaves the field).
read it and remember it...
If Wind-Up Zenmaines’ protective ability is used, you can destroy any card on the field during the End Phase. Zenmaines is a walking landmine that punishes your opponent for provoking it. If your opponent tries to touch it they’ll have one of their cards blow up at the end of the turn! Your opponent will either leave it alone, or frantically launch a giant assault on it to try and destroy it before it can explode their cards (since its effect won’t activate if it leaves the field).
read it and remember it...
Badass_Bunny- Smexy Duelist
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
Pshh ...
We'll see who wins.
We'll see who wins.
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Badass_Bunny- Smexy Duelist
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
Excuse you.
But remember the first time Safe Zone got posted on Konami Blog caused problems?
Then Tengu vs Xyz material?
We'll just see ....
But remember the first time Safe Zone got posted on Konami Blog caused problems?
Then Tengu vs Xyz material?
We'll just see ....
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
does Brain Crusher get its trigger if not face up on the field?...
should be the same here, i don't see why it should be able to destroy. Or do you have any examples where a monster fulfills a certain condition during the turn and could then activate in the end phase wether or not it is on the field?
should be the same here, i don't see why it should be able to destroy. Or do you have any examples where a monster fulfills a certain condition during the turn and could then activate in the end phase wether or not it is on the field?
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
That's close enough.
I thought there are examples where as long as the trigger met, it will trigger since it is mandatory.
We'll go with it can't activate until further notice.
I thought there are examples where as long as the trigger met, it will trigger since it is mandatory.
We'll go with it can't activate until further notice.
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
Key wrote:That's close enough.
I thought there are examples where as long as the trigger met, it will trigger since it is mandatory.
We'll go with it can't activate until further notice.
Badass_Bunny- Smexy Duelist
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
i cant remember a mandatory one but optional
genex neutron that one has to be face up on the field at end phase to activate effect (only if it was normal summoned during that turn)
genex neutron that one has to be face up on the field at end phase to activate effect (only if it was normal summoned during that turn)
raidou- Posts : 967
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
Someone said D.D. Sprite but I accidentally deleted the post.
But yea ...
But yea ...
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Re: Ruling about Wind-Up Zenmaines
i did:
D.D. Sprite
D.D. Sprite
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