evolzar dolkka vs wind-up zenmaines

my field: dolkka (2 overlay)
opp field: zenmaines (2 overlay)

question 1:
when dolkka attack zenmaines.....and zenmaines eff activate (neg destruction)
can dolkka negate it? (i remember a mod + my opp say it can't)

question 2:
if question 1 answer was no....and zenmaines eff @ep activate
is this a right chain?

zenmaines--> dolkka--> zenmaines(material left: 0)--> dolkka (material left:0)

result: zenmaines didn't destroy anything & send to grave

Question 1
Wind-Up Zenmaines first effect is continuous (like Gachi Gachi Gantetsu). It does not start a chain, so dolkka does not negate him.


Question 2
Wind-Up Zenmaines second effect start a chain, so dollka can negate its effect and destroy it by detachinf one material monster. Of course, Wind-Up Zenmaines can protect itself by detaching one material monsters, and dolkka can't negate this effect since it is a continuous one.

Zenmaines effect to protect itself is continuous and does not start a chain. Dollka cannot negate this part of its effect ever.

Zenmaines effect to destroy a card at the End Phase does start a chain, so Dollka can negate this and attempt to destroy it. If Zenmaines still has a material it can protect itself from being destroyed again.

Miror B. wrote:Zenmaines effect to protect itself is continuous and does not start a chain. Dollka cannot negate this part of its effect ever.

Zenmaines effect to destroy a card at the End Phase does start a chain, so Dollka can negate this and attempt to destroy it. If Zenmaines still has a material it can protect itself from being destroyed again.

and still being in the endphase it will destroy again, dolkka can negate again, so the phase would end with a no material dolkka and a zenmaines in the grave

S.S. Anaconda wrote:

Miror B. wrote:Zenmaines effect to protect itself is continuous and does not start a chain. Dollka cannot negate this part of its effect ever.

Zenmaines effect to destroy a card at the End Phase does start a chain, so Dollka can negate this and attempt to destroy it. If Zenmaines still has a material it can protect itself from being destroyed again.

and still being in the endphase it will destroy again, dolkka can negate again, so the phase would end with a no material dolkka and a zenmaines in the grave

Zenmaines End Phase effect activates once per turn/

is it? whoops

I know you can negate the effect at the end of the turn.

1. You cannot negate the detaching, its a continuous effect, and Dolkka can only negate effects that start chains.

2. You can negate the activation of Zenmaines Destruction trigger effect in the End Phase, but if it still has a material on it, it will be able to save itself.
And yes, Zenmaines destruction effect only triggers once, in the End Phase.