Masked Ninja Ebisu ruling

**3E-hero neos** 2011-10-21, 08:29

Hey guys,

Well, I really like this guy, but I feel like a cheater when using it...lol.
Suppose I have more Ninja's(including this monster)then opponent has Spells/Traps, can I then activate his effect?

This is his text, the bald part confuses me.

Once per turn: Return Spell/Trap Cards your opponent controls to the hand equal to the number of face-up "Ninja" monsters you control. You must control a face-up "Ninja" monster, except "Masked Ninja Ebisu", to activate and to resolve this effect. During this turn, "Goe Goe the Gallant Ninja" can attack your opponent directly.

I'm comparing it with R - Righteous Justice but the old Upperdeck rulings have been deemed unofficial by Konami :S.

Thanks in advance for answering me.

**Saturn** 2011-10-21, 09:23

Since it has the same kind of effect as Righteous Justice, except it's a Trunade not a Heavy, I'd assume you can send spells/traps to the hand even if you have more Ninjas than the opponent has Spells/Traps. The best thing to do would be to assume you can until Konami says something different.

**3E-hero neos** 2011-10-21, 10:05

Good idea, thanks!
Just waiting to see what others think about this.

**S.S.A.** 2011-10-21, 10:09

the comparison to R makes sense, i think your fine

**dest** 2011-10-21, 10:14

even if unofficial, that still takes place. If the opponent controlls less s/t than you control ninjas you can't activate it, since you must send an EQUAL ammount.

R just works with more heroes since you are also able to destroy your own s/t for that.

**Karakuri911** 2011-11-29, 17:47

What I want to know is, if he needs another Ninja to activate his effect, is he himself counted towards the resolution of the effect or no?

**3E-hero neos** 2011-11-29, 18:01

You must control a face-up "Ninja" monster, except "Masked Ninja Ebisu", to activate and to resolve this effect.

**Karakuri911** 2011-11-29, 19:58

3E-hero neos wrote:
You must control a face-up "Ninja" monster, except "Masked Ninja Ebisu", to activate and to resolve this effect.

So in that sense, he can only bounce up to 4?

**BlackwingRa** 2011-11-29, 20:19

Karakuri911 wrote:
3E-hero neos wrote:
You must control a face-up "Ninja" monster, except "Masked Ninja Ebisu", to activate and to resolve this effect.

So in that sense, he can only bounce up to 4?

He can bounce up to 5. He will counts himself when the effect resolves, but he needs another different "Ninja" in order to activate the effect.

**MK_ultra** 2011-11-29, 20:20

no he can bounce 5 god forbid u do that thanks to their beast xyz monsters you just need to contoll another ninja to activate and resolve
EX) ebisu + armored ninja wind = bounce 2

**kangtuji** 2011-12-02, 03:06

<img src="https://i.imgur.com/3Y2BO.jpg" style="max-width:100%" />

Ok... there is more ninjas..... so he can bounce.

But Now situation is.... I draw another ebichu...
And I normal summon him....
So... there are 2 of them now + 1 another ninja

How suppose in this situation... can he bounce 3 ? or just 4 (2+2)? or even 5 ?

**BlackwingRa** 2011-12-02, 03:18

You can bounce back 3 S/T your opponent control because there are 3 face-up "Ninja" monsters on your field. And after the 1st Ebisu resolves succesfully and bounce back 3 S/T cards, you can't activate the effect of the 2nd Ebisu because there is not enough S/T cards on your opponent's field for you to bounce back.

**kangtuji** 2011-12-02, 03:42

Uh I dunno... the text implying the 2'nd ebisu wouldn't count...

Once per turn, if you control a face-up "Ninja" monster other than "Masked Ninja Ebisu": Return Spell/Trap Cards your opponent controls to the hand equal to the number of "Ninja" monsters you control. During this turn, "Goe Goe the Gallant Ninja" can attack your opponent directly.

**RareHunter** 2011-12-02, 03:52

Masked Ninja Ebisu's text

Once per turn, if you control a face-up "Ninja" monster other than "Masked Ninja Ebisu": Return Spell/Trap Cards your opponent controls to the hand equal to the number of "Ninja" monsters you control. During this turn, "Goe Goe the Gallant Ninja" can attack your opponent directly.

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problem SOLVED, see in bold text Very Happy

**3E-hero neos** 2011-12-02, 04:10

kangtuji wrote:Uh I dunno... the text implying the 2'nd ebisu wouldn't count...

Once per turn, if you control a face-up "Ninja" monster other than "Masked Ninja Ebisu": Return Spell/Trap Cards your opponent controls to the hand equal to the number of "Ninja" monsters you control. During this turn, "Goe Goe the Gallant Ninja" can attack your opponent directly.

Thx, finally someone on topic, and solving the prob.

**kangtuji** 2011-12-02, 04:28

if we think again thats sounds like a condition

so the actual effect would cound the 2nd ebisu or not ?

**BlackwingRa** 2011-12-02, 04:45

Yes it would count, It says in the card text: Return Spell/Trap Cards your opponent controls to the hand equal to the number of "Ninja" monsters you control.

**kangtuji** 2011-12-21, 20:14

<img src=https://i.imgur.com/kLDCN.jpg style=max-width:100%>

My opp said I cann't return 2 S/T because ebisu doesn't count...
Who is the correct one ?

Answers:

Spoiler:

**BlackwingRa** 2011-12-21, 20:43

Your opponent is a good example that represent for knuckle heads on DN. If he can't understand the meaning of card texts, simply ignore him

**kyros** 2011-12-21, 21:11

The effect is self explanatory... Activation requirements have nothing to do with an effect.

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