706: Photon Shockwave

**Miley Syrus +** 2011-05-18, 13:09

Discuss the new ocg pack.

http://manjyomethunder.twoday.net/stories/16544201/

**Klavier Gavin** 2011-05-18, 16:37

Yay, more Vanilla and Mainspring support Very Happy

Pack seems pretty decent for now, but god damnit, Konami, why do you keep making Rank 1 Exceeds so hard to summon?

**Chico** 2011-05-19, 02:55

Why does Thunder End Dragon suck? I expected something good. It's not like I'll get 2 level 8 normal monsters on the field.

**Miley Syrus +** 2011-05-19, 03:41

Disaster dragon normal dragon variant maybe. BEWD and that new normal dragon in the set.

It's horrible aside from that.

**donovantx8** 2011-05-19, 17:44

Pictures of the new cards

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/NeoArkadia/wwwdotuporg1652208.jpg Galaxy Queen
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/NeoArkadia/wwwdotuporg1651921.jpg Shadow Lizard can't be used for Synchros
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/NeoArkadia/wwwdotuporg1652089.jpg Wind-Ups
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/NeoArkadia/wwwdotuporg1652093.jpg Yuma's Cards
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/NeoArkadia/wwwdotuporg1652097.jpg Normal Support

cred2Leark.

**Miley Syrus +** 2011-05-19, 18:30

donovantx8 wrote:Pictures of the new cards

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/NeoArkadia/wwwdotuporg1652208.jpg Galaxy Queen
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/NeoArkadia/wwwdotuporg1651921.jpg Shadow Lizard can't be used for Synchros
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/NeoArkadia/wwwdotuporg1652089.jpg Wind-Ups
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/NeoArkadia/wwwdotuporg1652093.jpg Yuma's Cards
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/NeoArkadia/wwwdotuporg1652097.jpg Normal Support

cred2Leark.

Thanks for the provided pictures.

The normal dragon looks silly but for it's exceed summon *The rank 8 dragon* It could be good in a normal Disaster dragon variant using 3x bewd, 3x new normal dragon, 3x tri horned dragon, ect. Using a lot of the normal ss cards and cards to get them in the grave such as future fusion, card destrucition, ect. Using a CoC engine with the dragon tuner to get BewD in your hand and 2 new cards is great also. So much potential with the new dragon exceed for Disaster dragons, but wouldn't go well in a regular variant.

I do think the rest of the artwork looks bad though, Galaxy queen looks okay though.

**donovantx8** 2011-05-19, 20:24

Really, I love all the Mainsprings thus far, shame they aren't worth using without exceeds.

**BERKAY** 2011-05-20, 04:52

Wow, what's this? How can we summon it? :S It's Rank 8 Very Happy

:D:D

Anyways, Yuma's cards looks pretty sweet. Very Happy

:DD: And this Hope, it's new name is Utopia? :S Jeez, Utopia is a place name, not a warrior or something like that. -_-

**Miley Syrus +** 2011-05-20, 05:05

BERKAY wrote:Wow, what's this? How can we summon it? :S It's Rank 8 :D:D

Anyways, Yuma's cards looks pretty sweet. :DD: And this Hope, it's new name is Utopia? :S Jeez, Utopia is a place name, not a warrior or something like that. -_-

The normal dragon looks silly but for it's exceed summon *The rank 8 dragon* It could be good in a normal Disaster dragon variant using 3x bewd, 3x new normal dragon, 3x tri horned dragon, ect. Using a lot of the normal ss cards and cards to get them in the grave such as future fusion, card destrucition, ect. Using a CoC engine with the dragon tuner to get BewD in your hand and 2 new cards is great also. So much potential with the new dragon exceed for Disaster dragons, but wouldn't go well in a regular variant.

So disaster dragons is your key.

**Chaos714** 2011-05-20, 05:06

BERKAY wrote:Wow, what's this? How can we summon it? :S It's Rank 8 :D:D

2 Level 8 Normal Monsters Razz

Birthright, Ancient Rules & even Swing of Memories can help here Razz

**vem123** 2011-05-20, 05:53

How will konami sell these packs ? HOW?

**BERKAY** 2011-05-20, 06:14

A Disaster Dragon deck better than Normal monsters Smile

**LegendaryFrost** 2011-05-20, 07:41

I forgot the name of a card that can allow u to special summon a lvl 8 or higher monster from your hand, that could help get BEWD out. There's also another card that let's u tribute monsters from the field to ss a dragon from your deck. Those are the only ways I can think of to get the rank 8 out.

**BERKAY** 2011-05-20, 09:18

There is a card for this but it summons level 5 or higher Normal Monsters, called "Ancient Rules"

**Miley Syrus +** 2011-05-20, 09:22

LegendaryFrost wrote:I forgot the name of a card that can allow u to special summon a lvl 8 or higher monster from your hand, that could help get BEWD out. There's also another card that let's u tribute monsters from the field to ss a dragon from your deck. Those are the only ways I can think of to get the rank 8 out.

I'd stick with disaster dragon, seems the fastest. :/

**Bringerofcake** 2011-05-21, 14:27

SOL Hopeless is all one needs. Summon a bunch of Blue-Eyes like a boss.

**Adept VantageSP** 2011-05-28, 15:50

vem123 wrote:How will konami sell these packs ? HOW?

Throw in some cool OCG imports and TCG exclusives (TCG version only).

**Miley Syrus +** 2011-05-28, 20:23

There isn't a reason not to buy them. Konami can make anything good just by releasing a card to make cards in a crappy set broken.

**Adept VantageSP** 2011-05-28, 22:52

Miley Syrus + wrote:There isn't a reason not to buy them. Konami can make anything good just by releasing a card to make cards in a crappy set broken.

True, how many times have you seen a card from an old set go up in value because someone came up with a cool combo. The trick is to get the cards cheap while they aren't popular, then reap the benefits when they go up in price.

**Miley Syrus +** 2011-05-29, 00:40

vantagesp wrote:
Miley Syrus + wrote:There isn't a reason not to buy them. Konami can make anything good just by releasing a card to make cards in a crappy set broken.
True, how many times have you seen a card from an old set go up in value because someone came up with a cool combo. The trick is to get the cards cheap while they aren't popular, then reap the benefits when they go up in price.

Quite more then often. Smile

Hopefully something pops into this set actually making this outstanding like a boss secret rare.

**Adept VantageSP** 2011-05-29, 21:42

Miley Syrus + wrote:
Hopefully something pops into this set actually making this outstanding like a boss secret rare.

Yeah, they are doing a good job with Generation Force so far, so hopefully the trend keeps up.

**donovantx8** 2011-05-30, 00:16

Generation Force was trash for the most part.

**Adept VantageSP** 2011-05-30, 21:36

donovantx8 wrote:Generation Force was trash for the most part.

The exclusives and imports are pretty nice though. I am liking some of the E-Hero stuff, but this is more opinion based, so , for me I like the stuff so far.

**Miley Syrus +** 2011-05-30, 22:35

donovantx8 wrote:Generation Force was trash for the most part.

Not every set is gold. There's always only about 5-6 cards that seem good to a single player in each set.

**donovantx8** 2011-05-31, 01:02

I get that, but that doesn't change the fact that Generation Force was trash.

Referring to the main set, OCG 80 cards, if that isn't obvious as well.

Extreme Victory was a great set, so was DREV, TSHD, but there a lot of busts like Ancient Prophecy too.

I mean even from a casual perspective, I wouldn't use a lot of the stuff in here, like Gem Elefant is terrible support, even for a subpar archetype.

**Adept VantageSP** 2011-05-31, 16:34

No matter how bad GENF looks, it is still better than early GX era stuff. Those sets were trash IMO (only a few good cards).

**kumaxtreme** 2011-06-13, 00:32

The new cards are not that exciting.

**Dudeboy20** 2011-06-13, 02:19

Thunder end dragon sucks but it can be used to run over cards easily

Regretful complaint looks like an all right card, you can use Scrap on it I think and can be used to synchro

**Ryusui** 2011-06-13, 02:44

Thunder End Dragon, huh?

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Thunder_Dragon
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Twin-Headed_Thunder_Dragon

The trilogy is finally complete.

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 09:31

Alrighty guys, if you didn't know, Janime and 2ch released MOAR info!

https://i.imgur.com/KdkRq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wjmdP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yeEJn.jpg

Those are the Evols. I'll see if there's a translation flying around, since the one Ness provided on Pojo was kinda... unbearable, I guess?

Here's MOAR new stuff:

Photon Kerberos
LIGHT/Beast
Level 3
1300/600
During the turn in which this Card was successfully Summoned, as long as this Card remains face-up, neither player can activate Trap Cards.

Plasma Ball (Yeah, not Photon, sorry)
LIGHT/Thunder
Level 3
This Card can attack your opponent directly. When this Card inflicts Battle Damage to the opponent by a direct attack, it is destroyed.

Daybreaker
LIGHT/Warrior
Level 4
1700/0
When this Card is Special Summoned, you can Special Summon 1 Daybreaker from your Hand.

Light Serpent
LIGHT/Reptile
Level 3
1200/800
If this Card is sent from the Hand to the Graveyard, you can Special Summon it. This Card cannot be used as a Synchro Material.

Photon Veil
Normal Spell Card
Return 2 LIGHT Monsters from your Hand to the Deck, then add up to 3 LIGHT Level 4 or lower Monsters from your Deck to your Hand. If you add 2 or more, all of them must have the same name.

Photonize
Normal Trap Card
Activate when your opponent declares an attack. Negate the attack of that 1 attacking monster, then increase the ATK of a monster you control by the ATK of the attacking monster until your next End Phase.

Photon Lead
Quick-Play Spell Card
Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower LIGHT monster in Attack Position.

White Knight Illuminator
LIGHT/Warrior
Rank 4
3 Level 4 Monsters
Once per turn, you can Detach 1 Xyz Material [from this Card] to draw 1 Card from your Deck.

Here's Vague Effects on the Evolds we recently got info for;

Evold Gephiros
FIRE/Reptile
Level 1
Stats unknown
When destroyed in battle, it Special Summons a "Evolda" Monster.

Evold Westoro
FIRE/Reptile
Level 3
700/1900
FLIP: Special Summons 1 "Evolda" Monster from your Deck.

Evolda Krato
FIRE/Dinosaur
Level 4
1900/1400
If Summoned by the effect of an "Evold" Monster, it gains 200 ATK. If it destroys a monster in battle, you can search for an "Evold" Monster.

Evolda Deplodocus (more or less)
FIRE/Dinosaur
Level 4
1600/???
If Summoned by the effect of an "Evold" Monster, it destroys 1 S/T your opponent controls.

Discuss! Razz

(Mods, if this is the wrong place to put this, either move it to the right place or just gimme a warning. Sad

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**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 09:47

This just in! More info was provided by another user on Pojo named Yuber!

Black Ray Lancer
DARK/Beast-Warrior
Rank 3
2100/600
2x Level 3 WATER monsters
Once per turn: You can detach a Xyz Material from this card to target 1 face-up monster on the field; negate its effects until the End Phase.

Korobokkuri
EARTH/Plant
Level 1
200/400
During your Main Phase; You can send 1 "Matsubokkuru" from your hand to the Graveyard and Special Summon this card from your hand.

Matsubokkuri
EARTH/Plant
Level 1
400/200
When this card is sent to the Graveyard by the effect of "Korobokkuri"; Special Summon this card from the Graveyard.

Shark Sucker
WATER/Fish
Level 3
200/1000
When a Fish-Type, Sea Serpent-Type, or Aqua-Type monster(s) is Special Summoned to your side of the field; You can Special Summon this card from your hand. This card cannot be used as a Synchro Material monster.

Tribe-Shocking Virus
WATER/Thunder
Level 4
1700/0
Once per turn: You can remove from play 1 monster from your hand; destroy all face-up monsters on the field with the same Type as the removed monster.

Anyone raging yet? XD

**Badass_Bunny** 2011-06-17, 09:58

Black Ray Lancer is great card decent attack and anti-metish eff...

Tribe-Shocking Virus=Tribe-Infecting Virus

RFG instead of discard, Wipes Out Sams,GK's and Worms also hurts Sabers and Zombies, IDK Maybe Konami could have Just changed Errata on Tribe-Infecting Virus

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 10:01

Shark Fandecks just jumped a little bit, thanks to Shark Sucker not being wrecked to hell. Now my deck can start spamming Rank 3's faster than ever. =P

Badass_Bunny wrote:Black Ray Lancer is great card decent attack and anti-metish eff...

Tribe-Shocking Virus=Tribe-Infecting Virus

RFG instead of discard, Wipes Out Sams,GK's and Worms also hurts Sabers and Zombies, IDK Maybe Konami could have Just changed Errata on Tribe-Infecting Virus

Errata'ing it wouldn't have done anything, other than make kids complain. Easier to just satisfy'em by making a totally different Monster. xD

**Yami-Malik** 2011-06-17, 10:14

Those last 5 monsters are XYZ?

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 10:18

Nope, just Black Ray Lancer and that Warrior guy up there that lets you draw 1 card by removing an Overlay Unit. o.o

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 10:43

Oh, and Ness00 on Pojo gave an update on what's up with Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon. So far, from the unconfirmed effect we have...

Originally Posted by ness00
Let's see, from its latest text:

-It's still only Special Summoned from the Hand by tributing the two monsters (i.e., not Graveyard).
-During the Battle Step in which it battles a monster, you can activate its effect. Both Galaxy-Eyes and the opponent's monster are Banished until the End of the Battle Phase.
-At the End of the Battle Phase, both monsters Banished by this effect return to the Field.
-If the Banished Monster was a Xyz Monster, Galaxy-Eyes gains 500 ATK for each Xyz Material at the time the opponent's monster was Banished.

Still, there may be more or less to its text. But by that text, there wouldn't be infinite replays, just a very annoying stall.

**Roxzen** 2011-06-17, 10:47

Tribe-Shocking Virus = God mirror match side?

**Lovelace** 2011-06-17, 10:49

Them evols sound freaking awesome.

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 10:55

Roxzen wrote:Tribe-Shocking Virus = God mirror match side?

It's godly in all mirror matches. :3

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 10:56

thecicada wrote:Them evols sound freaking awesome.

Hell yeah! Hell, Evol Krato is the theme's own Jurrac Guaiba! Notice how it doesn't specify sending the enemy into the graveyard! =D

And they have their own GK Spy! 0.0;

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 11:09

I got info on the Spell/Trap Support!

Fate of Evolution
Continuous Spell
When a monster is Special Summoned by the effect of an "Evoldo" monster, your opponent cannot activate the effects of Spell, Trap or Effect Monster Cards.

Miracle of Evolution
Quick-Play Spell
Target 1 monster Special Summoned by the effect of an "Evoldo" monster: During this turn, the target cannot be destroyed by battle or by card effects.

Suspension Bridge of Evolution
Normal Trap
When a monster you control is targeted for an attack: Target 1 "Evoldo" monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it and change the attack target to the monster Summoned by this card's effect.

**Roxzen** 2011-06-17, 11:14

Johnny Raptor wrote:Photonize
Normal Trap Card
Activate when your opponent declares an attack. Negate the attack of that 1 attacking monster, then increase the ATK of a monster you control by the ATK of the attacking monster until your next End Phase.

lolwut?

Also, shame Plasma Ball can't trigger Kikotei. =<

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 11:16

Roxzen wrote:
Johnny Raptor wrote:Photonize
Normal Trap Card
Activate when your opponent declares an attack. Negate the attack of that 1 attacking monster, then increase the ATK of a monster you control by the ATK of the attacking monster until your next End Phase.
lolwut?

Also, shame Plasma Ball can't trigger Kikotei. =<

Apparently Honest wasn't enough of a cock-block. XD

And it can't? *Goes to re-read effect*

Nope, it triggers them. Nothing says that they cannot be brought out during the Damage Step or nothing like that. o.o

**Roxzen** 2011-06-17, 11:18

Yep, based on the wording, it seems like it is destroyed during damage calculation, so Kikoutei cannot activate their effect during damage step substeps.

If it was after damage calculation, then maybe, but I'm not entirely sure on it.

**Roxzen** 2011-06-17, 11:20

Johnny Raptor wrote:Nope, it triggers them. Nothing says that they cannot be brought out during the Damage Step or nothing like that. o.o

http://duelingdays.blogspot.com/2010/08/machine-emperor-wiesel-rulings.html

DSummon wrote:Ruling 6: No you cant summon it during damage step, so hitting a Ryko/Snowman is lol to yourself

Apparently not.

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 11:21

Should be after Damage Calculations, since it kills itself once it inflicts the damage. Although I'm not sure if this little guy starts a chain. Neutral

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 11:22

Roxzen wrote:
Johnny Raptor wrote:Nope, it triggers them. Nothing says that they cannot be brought out during the Damage Step or nothing like that. o.o

http://duelingdays.blogspot.com/2010/08/machine-emperor-wiesel-rulings.html

DSummon wrote:Ruling 6: No you cant summon it during damage step, so hitting a Ryko/Snowman is lol to yourself
Apparently not.

Well that sucks. Neutral

**Galvanizer** 2011-06-17, 12:00

Tribe-Shocking Virus seems so OP. That and it will definitely get rarity hiked

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-06-17, 12:15

Galvanizer wrote:Tribe-Shocking Virus seems so OP. That and it will definitely get rarity hiked

It seems that way, but only for a Mirror Match, really. o.O

**Badass_Bunny** 2011-06-17, 12:46

Also I didn't notice the first post till now but Photon Veil is just so "WHAT THE F**K" That card is gonna help Agents to top like hell, I mean card can be potential -2 or -1 but still faster way to search for Earth,Kristya,Honest,Hyperion. Bunny likes this a lot

Also White Knight Iluminator can be splashed in GK's

BTW Since according to the way things go to Boster Packs you should expect a lot more Light support in this since this is one of Light series of bosters, next should support Winds I believe

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