Safe Zone

Would safe zone prevent someone using Lava Golem / 1 tribute Queen or Super Poly on monster being protected with safe zone ?

Oh I was talking opp side super poly, not my super poly

1. Lava Golem/Volcanic Queen's tribute aren't effects, they're costs
2. Since they're costs, costs never target
3. The controller of the monster equipped with Safe Zone would not be affected by his/her opponent's Super Poly (Can't target) but will be affected by his/her own Super Poly

Key SuperPoly Dose not target.....
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Super_Polymerization

Super Poly or any Fusion Spell Card never targets, unless Konami said otherwise.

oK, I just meet someone that just quit after I explain how safe zone works


Heres a situation:

1. Opp use monster attack,
2. I flip Compulsary Evac. Device
3. Opp flip safe zone
4. I don't have more chain


After that I said its already been targeted by safe zone, so monster return to hand,

AT FIRST

he refuse, and I kindly explain its ALREADY targetted before safe zone effect resolves

So he return the monster, but I doubt he understand this (he was rank 600++ / 150++)

BUT !

then he set back saze zone

extact moment after I said it remain faceup on field

He quit




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WHY ?

Cause he's stupid, that's why!

there are many players who treat safe zone as if negated the targeting effect instead of preventing


i had to give the same explanation many times

IF he activated Safe Zone to protect his monster, then he's in the right. it would no longer be a target of Compulsary evacuation device, since that card does target.

Dueler312 wrote:IF he activated Safe Zone to protect his monster, then he's in the right. it would no longer be a target of Compulsary evacuation device, since that card does target.

Wrong. Chain SZ or CED is usless, since CED already target the monster before.

Magicknight94 wrote:

Dueler312 wrote:IF he activated Safe Zone to protect his monster, then he's in the right. it would no longer be a target of Compulsary evacuation device, since that card does target.

Wrong. Chain SZ or CED is usless, since CED already target the monster before.

No it would stop it. True it already targeted it, but when SZ is activated, it's no longer at a target, since Safe Zone would go first in the chain.

Dueler312 wrote:

Magicknight94 wrote:

Dueler312 wrote:IF he activated Safe Zone to protect his monster, then he's in the right. it would no longer be a target of Compulsary evacuation device, since that card does target.

Wrong. Chain SZ or CED is usless, since CED already target the monster before.

No it would stop it. True it already targeted it, but when SZ is activated, it's no longer at a target, since Safe Zone would go first in the chain.

You are wrong.

In the following chain: CED CL1 > Safe Zone CL2

CED would target a monster on the opponent's side of the field before Safe Zone resolves. Safe Zone does not stop the monster its attempting to protect if it has already previously been targeted by another card effect in the same chain.

Dueler312 wrote:

Magicknight94 wrote:

Dueler312 wrote:IF he activated Safe Zone to protect his monster, then he's in the right. it would no longer be a target of Compulsary evacuation device, since that card does target.

Wrong. Chain SZ or CED is usless, since CED already target the monster before.

No it would stop it. True it already targeted it, but when SZ is activated, it's no longer at a target, since Safe Zone would go first in the chain.

Safe Zone PREVENTS targeting, it doesn't STOP targeting. CED has already targeted so it can no longer be prevented.

Miror B. wrote:

Dueler312 wrote:

Magicknight94 wrote:

Dueler312 wrote:IF he activated Safe Zone to protect his monster, then he's in the right. it would no longer be a target of Compulsary evacuation device, since that card does target.

Wrong. Chain SZ or CED is usless, since CED already target the monster before.

No it would stop it. True it already targeted it, but when SZ is activated, it's no longer at a target, since Safe Zone would go first in the chain.

Safe Zone PREVENTS targeting, it doesn't STOP targeting. CED has already targeted so it can no longer be prevented.

Oh okay. I see your point now.

and how about cards that doesnt target? like dark hole, it doesnt target so safe zone protects the monster in a chain link?

Hunter_13 wrote:and how about cards that doesnt target? like dark hole, it doesnt target so safe zone protects the monster in a chain link?

Safe Zone will protect a monster from being destroyed if it is chained to a non targeting effect.

Tsunayoshi wrote:

Hunter_13 wrote:and how about cards that doesnt target? like dark hole, it doesnt target so safe zone protects the monster in a chain link?

Safe Zone will protect a monster from being destroyed if it is chained to a non targeting effect.

Even if it is chained to a target effect, it will protect the monster if the effect is to destroy the monster.

BlackwingRa wrote:

Tsunayoshi wrote:

Hunter_13 wrote:and how about cards that doesnt target? like dark hole, it doesnt target so safe zone protects the monster in a chain link?

Safe Zone will protect a monster from being destroyed if it is chained to a non targeting effect.

Even if it is chained to a target effect, it will protect the monster if the effect is to destroy the monster.

Yea, the only reason it doesn't save from CED is cuz it doesn't stop bouncing.

Actaually, its because it ALREADY targgeted before the effect resolves

(Apperently I also didn't read the card right... its not like call of the haunted... when the monster leave field, its also destroyed.

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"Activate only by selecting 1 face-up Attack Position monster. That monster cannot be targeted or destroyed by your opponent's card effects, or be destroyed by battle. It cannot attack your opponent directly. When this card is removed from the field, destroy that monster. When that monster is removed from the field, destroy this card."

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One notable confused rulings you might not know also "It cannot attack your opponent directly." this actuallys mean as opp of card's contoller.

Or in tranlate version : So equipping you own safe zone (which you controlling) to your opp monster, doesn't make it unable to direct attack you. It still can direct attack you because your opp doesn't controlling safe zone

Issue at hand solved. Topic closed.