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Reporting a moderator
I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section. None of the mods aside from Halberdier could really help me with anywhere to put this. I apologize for not having screencaps, but when you're booted you don't have the liberty of taking them and none of my friends were watching the duel. I don't have a log of being booted the second time to mod came into the room, because I wasn't fast enough to copy/paste the section where the mod returns and boots me.
To preface the log: I don't want this to be about the Veiler situation. It's silly, and it's not what this is about. This is about the conduct of ASOBITAI, who viewed me as a guilty party long before ever hearing my side of the story because my opponent went out his way to private message ASOBITAI before he even came into the room to assess the situation. I was given a no win situation that essentially ended with a free win for my opponent at best and a ban at worst.
I understand that moderators in this game deal with situations in bulk and don't always have the opportunity to make the best judgments, but this is ridiculous. Multiple times I was asked to quit, one way or another.
In the end ASOBITAI left the room for about a minute. In that minute I attempted to private message a moderator, but could get no reply. ASOBITAI returned, asked if I was ready to accept defeat, and then told me to enjoy the boot.
Again, I apologize for not having a log or cap of the boot, but I was not fast enough to grab it. I'm sure if he reads this he will be able to confirm that he in fact booted me and gave my opponent the free win he wanted.
What follows is the log. Again, I ask that you focus on the actions of the moderator rather than the dispute that was taking place.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: ...
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: 4
Breakdown: my bad wasnt paying attention
Breakdown: k?
Breakdown: is grepher's effect fine?
Breakdown has lost 150 life points
Breakdown: on the summon?
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Yes
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Oh
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I get it
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You tricked me
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Cute
Breakdown: only play tbh
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You know what I mean
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Put that back
MWO/DMG - SK Tony has called an admin
Breakdown: you messed up man
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
Breakdown: not my fault
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Put it in defense mode
Breakdown: you said on the summon lol
Breakdown: a mod will rule in my favor
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Put it in defense mode
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: It's cool that you're trying to shark
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I get it
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're out of moves
Breakdown: you were the one who misplayed its not my fault a ranked game should be treated as a tournament
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Put Necro in defense mode
Breakdown: thats what the mod will say
Breakdown: youre wasting your time man
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I'm not
Breakdown: unless you can stop me going off scoo
Breakdown: *scoop
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're sharking 'cause you're out of moves
Breakdown: yes but i still will win unless you have another veiler chilling in your hand
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Necromancer has no effect
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You don't know what I have left
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Now shift Necro to defense and continue
Breakdown: no but i can barrier it bro if you say you veiler me on the summon
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're trying to shark
Breakdown: like i dont see what you dont understand
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And I'm not your bro
Breakdown: the mods will rule in my favor guaranteed
Breakdown: but like you understand what you did wrong right?
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I didn't do anything wrong
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're sharking buddy
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: 'Cause you know
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: It's over
Breakdown: over for you lol
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Necromancer is in defense mode
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No effect
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You have no moves
Breakdown: not if you veiler on the summon =)
Breakdown: which you said you were doing
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And that's why you're sharking
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: It's obvious
Breakdown: its not my fault you misplayed man
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I didn't misplay
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And you wouldn't be trying so hard to talk me out of the mod call
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: If you thought you had it
Breakdown: im not talking you out of it
Breakdown: im saying youre wasting your time
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're trying to
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're trying very very hard to
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Harder than you're sharking, even
Breakdown: dude i will personally contact one lmao
Breakdown: Breakdown: can you get in here please?Breakdown: i have a quick rulingASOBITAI: You can ask me here
Breakdown: Breakdown: so basically what happened was i summoned infernity necromancer and my opponent immediately proceeded to drop effect veiler and i asked "on the summon?" to which he replied "yes"
Breakdown: Breakdown: i then flipped infernity barrier negating his veiler seeing as he declared he used it on the summonBreakdown: i had an infernity in attack modeASOBITAI: Okay...
Breakdown: Breakdown: this is the logBreakdown: Breakdown: on the summon?MWO/DMG - SK Tony: YesMWO/DMG - SK Tony: OhMWO/DMG - SK Tony: I get itMWO/DMG - SK Tony: You tricked me
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You already admitted to the cheating/sharking
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Whatever you're after with your friend
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Has no bearing on this
Breakdown: ASOBITAI: Go on.Breakdown: and now hes trying to take it back lolASOBITAI: Well, he can't.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Again
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You and your friend
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Don't care
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You already admitted to wrongdoing
Breakdown: hes a mod go check it
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Breakdown: only play tbh
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You seemed to forget to tell your friend that
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: If you were going to play the part of the super elitist pro
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Then you shouldn't have admitted to cheating first
Breakdown: lol i never said "i was cheating"
Breakdown: i said this is my only play
Breakdown: so i made my case on it
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: To shark
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Yes
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Sharking was your only play
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You can't backfire at this point
Breakdown: rulesharking=/=cheating
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Asbitai
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're his friend
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I want an impartial party
Breakdown: this game should be treated seriously
ASOBITAI: I don't even know the guy.
ASOBITAI: How am I his friend?
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Well he says he knows you
ASOBITAI: :O
ASOBITAI: You do?
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: He's been trying to intimidate me
Breakdown: lol no i didnt say that?
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Alongside his sharking
Breakdown: this is hilarious
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: He admits to his sharking here
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: https://i.imgur.com/3caNv.png
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I have him dead to rights
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And his only move is to shark
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And pray that I let it slide, or that you agree with him
ASOBITAI: Necromancer's effect triggers when it is summoned, to change it to defense position.
ASOBITAI: You chose to activate Veiler, and he Barrier'd you.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
ASOBITAI: I don't see what's so wrong about that play.
Breakdown: lolololololol
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: My intention is to veiler once it switches
Breakdown: dude i sent him the logs
Breakdown: give up
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You know you're wrong
ASOBITAI: You responded to the summon with Veiler.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: He's sharking me
ASOBITAI: ...is what I got from the log.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Last I checked
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: That is illegal
ASOBITAI: That's not a shark.
Breakdown: and if that was your intention you wouldnt have said when it was summoned
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Yes it is
ASOBITAI: That's the way to COMMUNICATE.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: He admits he's sharking
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Breakdown: only play tbh
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: His only play is to try and trick me
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Because he loses
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Any other way
Breakdown: lol no
ASOBITAI: Do I let you play on at this game state, do I give him the win, or do I give him the win and ban you for a day?
ASOBITAI: You choose.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I want this game cancelled
Breakdown: lmao
ASOBITAI: There's no reason to cancel it.
Breakdown: dude
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Yes there is
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: He's sharking me
Breakdown: you lose im sorry youre mad
ASOBITAI: I'm a judge, I know what sharking is.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I haven't done anything to warrant a ban
Breakdown: lolololol
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: So cancel the game
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: There's no reason to continue
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: There's nothing here to warrant a ban
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Or a free win
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And if this is the player he is
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I want no part in it
ASOBITAI: You can admit defeat.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: he doesn't deserve a free win
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No matter what happens here
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You seem intent on giving him the game
Breakdown: dude youre like really mad
Breakdown: calm down
ASOBITAI: I did give you the option of continuing in this game state.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I'm asking you to please cancel this.
ASOBITAI: I'm going to have to humbly decline.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Then you're not a real mod
ASOBITAI: Oh, but I am.
ASOBITAI: Can't you see my colours?
Breakdown: bababaBANHAMMER
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I'd rather not be chastised by my opponent
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: This is bordering on harassment
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Again, please cancel the duel
Breakdown: i was telling you to calm down ill shut up now
I have a screencap used in the dispute here, where I called in a friend to help cap the situation. Unfortunately he was in a duel.
https://imgur.com/3caNv
To me, this is the most jarring part of the log:
ASOBITAI: Do I let you play on at this game state, do I give him the win, or do I give him the win and ban you for a day?
I don't think I've ever seen a moderator come in with an attitude that someone in the room was already guilty.
To preface the log: I don't want this to be about the Veiler situation. It's silly, and it's not what this is about. This is about the conduct of ASOBITAI, who viewed me as a guilty party long before ever hearing my side of the story because my opponent went out his way to private message ASOBITAI before he even came into the room to assess the situation. I was given a no win situation that essentially ended with a free win for my opponent at best and a ban at worst.
I understand that moderators in this game deal with situations in bulk and don't always have the opportunity to make the best judgments, but this is ridiculous. Multiple times I was asked to quit, one way or another.
In the end ASOBITAI left the room for about a minute. In that minute I attempted to private message a moderator, but could get no reply. ASOBITAI returned, asked if I was ready to accept defeat, and then told me to enjoy the boot.
Again, I apologize for not having a log or cap of the boot, but I was not fast enough to grab it. I'm sure if he reads this he will be able to confirm that he in fact booted me and gave my opponent the free win he wanted.
What follows is the log. Again, I ask that you focus on the actions of the moderator rather than the dispute that was taking place.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: ...
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: 4
Breakdown: my bad wasnt paying attention
Breakdown: k?
Breakdown: is grepher's effect fine?
Breakdown has lost 150 life points
Breakdown: on the summon?
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Yes
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Oh
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I get it
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You tricked me
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Cute
Breakdown: only play tbh
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You know what I mean
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Put that back
MWO/DMG - SK Tony has called an admin
Breakdown: you messed up man
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
Breakdown: not my fault
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Put it in defense mode
Breakdown: you said on the summon lol
Breakdown: a mod will rule in my favor
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Put it in defense mode
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: It's cool that you're trying to shark
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I get it
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're out of moves
Breakdown: you were the one who misplayed its not my fault a ranked game should be treated as a tournament
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Put Necro in defense mode
Breakdown: thats what the mod will say
Breakdown: youre wasting your time man
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I'm not
Breakdown: unless you can stop me going off scoo
Breakdown: *scoop
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're sharking 'cause you're out of moves
Breakdown: yes but i still will win unless you have another veiler chilling in your hand
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Necromancer has no effect
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You don't know what I have left
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Now shift Necro to defense and continue
Breakdown: no but i can barrier it bro if you say you veiler me on the summon
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're trying to shark
Breakdown: like i dont see what you dont understand
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And I'm not your bro
Breakdown: the mods will rule in my favor guaranteed
Breakdown: but like you understand what you did wrong right?
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I didn't do anything wrong
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're sharking buddy
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: 'Cause you know
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: It's over
Breakdown: over for you lol
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Necromancer is in defense mode
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No effect
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You have no moves
Breakdown: not if you veiler on the summon =)
Breakdown: which you said you were doing
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And that's why you're sharking
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: It's obvious
Breakdown: its not my fault you misplayed man
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I didn't misplay
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And you wouldn't be trying so hard to talk me out of the mod call
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: If you thought you had it
Breakdown: im not talking you out of it
Breakdown: im saying youre wasting your time
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're trying to
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're trying very very hard to
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Harder than you're sharking, even
Breakdown: dude i will personally contact one lmao
Breakdown: Breakdown: can you get in here please?Breakdown: i have a quick rulingASOBITAI: You can ask me here
Breakdown: Breakdown: so basically what happened was i summoned infernity necromancer and my opponent immediately proceeded to drop effect veiler and i asked "on the summon?" to which he replied "yes"
Breakdown: Breakdown: i then flipped infernity barrier negating his veiler seeing as he declared he used it on the summonBreakdown: i had an infernity in attack modeASOBITAI: Okay...
Breakdown: Breakdown: this is the logBreakdown: Breakdown: on the summon?MWO/DMG - SK Tony: YesMWO/DMG - SK Tony: OhMWO/DMG - SK Tony: I get itMWO/DMG - SK Tony: You tricked me
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You already admitted to the cheating/sharking
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Whatever you're after with your friend
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Has no bearing on this
Breakdown: ASOBITAI: Go on.Breakdown: and now hes trying to take it back lolASOBITAI: Well, he can't.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Again
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You and your friend
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Don't care
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You already admitted to wrongdoing
Breakdown: hes a mod go check it
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Breakdown: only play tbh
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You seemed to forget to tell your friend that
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: If you were going to play the part of the super elitist pro
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Then you shouldn't have admitted to cheating first
Breakdown: lol i never said "i was cheating"
Breakdown: i said this is my only play
Breakdown: so i made my case on it
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: To shark
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Yes
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Sharking was your only play
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You can't backfire at this point
Breakdown: rulesharking=/=cheating
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Asbitai
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You're his friend
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I want an impartial party
Breakdown: this game should be treated seriously
ASOBITAI: I don't even know the guy.
ASOBITAI: How am I his friend?
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Well he says he knows you
ASOBITAI: :O
ASOBITAI: You do?
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: He's been trying to intimidate me
Breakdown: lol no i didnt say that?
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Alongside his sharking
Breakdown: this is hilarious
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: He admits to his sharking here
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: https://i.imgur.com/3caNv.png
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I have him dead to rights
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And his only move is to shark
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And pray that I let it slide, or that you agree with him
ASOBITAI: Necromancer's effect triggers when it is summoned, to change it to defense position.
ASOBITAI: You chose to activate Veiler, and he Barrier'd you.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
ASOBITAI: I don't see what's so wrong about that play.
Breakdown: lolololololol
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: My intention is to veiler once it switches
Breakdown: dude i sent him the logs
Breakdown: give up
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You know you're wrong
ASOBITAI: You responded to the summon with Veiler.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: He's sharking me
ASOBITAI: ...is what I got from the log.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Last I checked
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: That is illegal
ASOBITAI: That's not a shark.
Breakdown: and if that was your intention you wouldnt have said when it was summoned
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Yes it is
ASOBITAI: That's the way to COMMUNICATE.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: He admits he's sharking
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Breakdown: only play tbh
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: His only play is to try and trick me
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Because he loses
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Any other way
Breakdown: lol no
ASOBITAI: Do I let you play on at this game state, do I give him the win, or do I give him the win and ban you for a day?
ASOBITAI: You choose.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I want this game cancelled
Breakdown: lmao
ASOBITAI: There's no reason to cancel it.
Breakdown: dude
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Yes there is
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: He's sharking me
Breakdown: you lose im sorry youre mad
ASOBITAI: I'm a judge, I know what sharking is.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I haven't done anything to warrant a ban
Breakdown: lolololol
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: So cancel the game
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: There's no reason to continue
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: There's nothing here to warrant a ban
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Or a free win
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: And if this is the player he is
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I want no part in it
ASOBITAI: You can admit defeat.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: he doesn't deserve a free win
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: No matter what happens here
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: You seem intent on giving him the game
Breakdown: dude youre like really mad
Breakdown: calm down
ASOBITAI: I did give you the option of continuing in this game state.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I'm asking you to please cancel this.
ASOBITAI: I'm going to have to humbly decline.
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Then you're not a real mod
ASOBITAI: Oh, but I am.
ASOBITAI: Can't you see my colours?
Breakdown: bababaBANHAMMER
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: I'd rather not be chastised by my opponent
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: This is bordering on harassment
MWO/DMG - SK Tony: Again, please cancel the duel
Breakdown: i was telling you to calm down ill shut up now
I have a screencap used in the dispute here, where I called in a friend to help cap the situation. Unfortunately he was in a duel.
https://imgur.com/3caNv
To me, this is the most jarring part of the log:
ASOBITAI: Do I let you play on at this game state, do I give him the win, or do I give him the win and ban you for a day?
I don't think I've ever seen a moderator come in with an attitude that someone in the room was already guilty.
TonySK- Posts : 5
Join date : 2011-11-07
Re: Reporting a moderator
Uhh How top put this....
Rule sharking is Legal...
You cant get around it...
Sorry but its a part of the game Some players are like this but Most arnt just stay away from the Top Top Players and the -Rep Most players are only here to have fun
Rule sharking is Legal...
You cant get around it...
Sorry but its a part of the game Some players are like this but Most arnt just stay away from the Top Top Players and the -Rep Most players are only here to have fun
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Birthday : 1993-10-30
Join date : 2011-10-02
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