An analysis on the Forbidden list

KingKaiserSW wrote:I was looking at some of the cards here and started to think, in today's meta will some of these cards leave their current place on the list?



After creating Dueling Network, does he deserve to leave the forbidden list? People have been speculating that Konami might bring him back after releasing him in Gold Series 4. He's similar to Chaos Sorcerer, except with 3000 attack, can remove a facedown card OR can attack again after destroying it by battle. Will he actually come back? It's possible
While it is overshadowed by a lot of abilities, it is an easy to summon 3000 atk beatstick that can either atk twice or RFP a monster. Still banable.



People are actually saying that this guy needs to come back, well like Solemn I say NO! It's a plus 1 and getting him back from the removed from play zone is not that difficult.
This is banned both because it is spell retrieval and it is able to RFP anything it beats. This is the argument I was presented with when saying its not that broken.


One of my favorite cards! Well, it's banned for a reason, I just wanted to give it a special mention
Limit Reverse = draw engine.



Another card people want back, why?! She can also be recycled easily, but who knows? Sometimes Konami does the strangest things.
This card should come back, alongside banning of the cards that make this broken to begin with, such as Monster Reborn.


Is this card really a threat in this format? With all these monster destruction cards how long can this card last? But at the same time it can be resurrected by Monster Reborn and other cards so...i'm kinda on the fence on this.
Too easy to summon and even in an effect heavy format is broken.


There's a reason why its illegal counterparts have never been released to the public as playable cards, some guy on another site actually wanted to unlimit this card haha then again he also wanted to kill almost all top tier decks with his "unbiased" ban list.
If you scoop when this is about to win the duel, you still lose the match. This makes the game a 1 duel game, and therefore the less experienced player has a better chance of getting the lucky winning hand.


With the current format relying for on small monsters does this card really pose as a big threat? The most it can do is to rid the field of beatsticks midgame and see what they sraw for 3 turns.
If you are suggesting this card is not broken... you should quit the game right now.

Well that's my analysis on the Forbidden list, hope you enjoyed it.

While it is overshadowed by a lot of abilities, it is an easy to summon 3000 atk beatstick that can either atk twice or RFP a monster. Still banable.
I'm not explaining how the meta can change the playability of a card to you again.

This card should come back, alongside banning of the cards that make this broken to begin with, such as Monster Reborn.
Again with your Monster Reborn hate? This card can be still be abused even if you take out cards like Monster Reborn, but of course you can't understand that cause your knowledge of today's cards is limited. To quote Jackie Chan's Uncle, you must do REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEsearch

Too easy to summon and even in an effect heavy format is broken.
REEEEEEEEEsearch, also take into account that the majority of Yugioh players don't care whether this card comes back or not. Again, the meta can change a card's playability.

If you are suggesting this card is not broken... you should quit the game right now.
Crush Card isn't as big as a threat as it used to be. Although, the typical tribute for it is usually a sangan and what I didn't take into account is how people can easily bring out sangan.

3E-hero neos wrote:Have you guys also heard speculations that Konami will be bringing two cards back from the death?

And Victory Dragon is there for a reason, example: You're in a YCS, you're doing great, opponent runs random Ojama, had a Swords of Revealing Light, and 5 Ojama's. In addition, their Field Spell is active and he got Delta Hurricane in the hand.
Now it's his turn, plays Delta Hurricane, tributes 3 monsters, attacks with 2 Ojama's first, then direct with Victory Dragon, he just won the game......no wait he won the YCS Match O.O.

zerods wrote:-disk commander is soo broken, with junk synchron, debris dragon and one by one you can easy special summon him and draw 2 cards *-*
-thousand eye restric this card is so broken too, i will not leave this card limited never -.-
-chaos sorcerer a great card but soo broken too, you can recover a spell card from your graveyard and banish the opponent monsters when he destroys them, he can be easy SS with a dark magician on the field

KingKaiserSW wrote:

While it is overshadowed by a lot of abilities, it is an easy to summon 3000 atk beatstick that can either atk twice or RFP a monster. Still banable.
I'm not explaining how the meta can change the playability of a card to you again.
Everyone plays Solemn Warning, lets put Monster Reborn back at 3! Yes the meta has changed, but it doesnt make broken cards any less broken. I dont understand what is so hard about that concept.

This card should come back, alongside banning of the cards that make this broken to begin with, such as Monster Reborn.
Again with your Monster Reborn hate? This card can be still be abused even if you take out cards like Monster Reborn, but of course you can't understand that cause your knowledge of today's cards is limited. To quote Jackie Chan's Uncle, you must do REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEsearch
Yes there are a few cards that can be abused with it, but without all the broken spells in the game this card no longer seems banworthy. This card is banworthy due to all the banworthy spells in existence.

Too easy to summon and even in an effect heavy format is broken.
REEEEEEEEEsearch, also take into account that the majority of Yugioh players don't care whether this card comes back or not. Again, the meta can change a card's playability.
Just because the meta makes a card less playable for the time being, it does not make it any less broken. You seriously need to lrn2ygo.

If you are suggesting this card is not broken... you should quit the game right now.
Crush Card isn't as big as a threat as it used to be. Although, the typical tribute for it is usually a sangan and what I didn't take into account is how people can easily bring out sangan.
A card that completely kills all 1500 atk or more while requiring an easy to give tribute, allows you to see your opponents hand and the next 3 cards they draw and sending more than likely 1 or 2 of them to the grave ISNT broken? TIME SEAL COULD COME BACK FIRST. Im done arguing with you because you are lowing my IQ with your fail.

KingKaiserSW wrote:While it is overshadowed by a lot of abilities, it is an easy to summon 3000 atk beatstick that can either atk twice or RFP a monster. Still banable.
I'm not explaining how the meta can change the playability of a card to you again.
Everyone plays Solemn Warning, lets put Monster Reborn back at 3! Yes the meta has changed, but it doesnt make broken cards any less broken. I dont understand what is so hard about that concept.
Then let's ban Breaker again! The meta may have changed but oh golly it doesn't make Breaker any less broken!

This card should come back, alongside banning of the cards that make this broken to begin with, such as Monster Reborn.
Again with your Monster Reborn hate? This card can be still be abused even if you take out cards like Monster Reborn, but of course you can't understand that cause your knowledge of today's cards is limited. To quote Jackie Chan's Uncle, you must do REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEsearch
Yes there are a few cards that can be abused with it, but without all the broken spells in the game this card no longer seems banworthy. This card is banworthy due to all the banworthy spells in existence.
By that logic, every spell in the limited list is going to be banned just to bring back one card.

Too easy to summon and even in an effect heavy format is broken.
REEEEEEEEEsearch, also take into account that the majority of Yugioh players don't care whether this card comes back or not. Again, the meta can change a card's playability.
Just because the meta makes a card less playable for the time being, it does not make it any less broken. You seriously need to lrn2ygo.
Again, look at Breaker, It was considered broken a few formats ago and nowit's not even a threat anymore.

If you are suggesting this card is not broken... you should quit the game right now.
Crush Card isn't as big as a threat as it used to be. Although, the typical tribute for it is usually a sangan and what I didn't take into account is how people can easily bring out sangan.
A card that completely kills all 1500 atk or more while requiring an easy to give tribute, allows you to see your opponents hand and the next 3 cards they draw and sending more than likely 1 or 2 of them to the grave ISNT broken? TIME SEAL COULD COME BACK FIRST. Im done arguing with you because you are lowing my IQ with your fail.
lol no you're done cause you can't counter anything I say, you have no knowledge of the current meta and you act like you know what you're talking about. It's not 2009 anymore!

KingKaiserSW wrote: With the current format relying for on small monsters does this card really pose as a big threat? The most it can do is to rid the field of beatsticks midgame and see what they sraw for 3 turns.

Badass_Bunny wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't get Kaiser posts?

KingKaiserSW wrote: With the current format relying for on small monsters does this card really pose as a big threat? The most it can do is to rid the field of beatsticks midgame and see what they sraw for 3 turns.

^^ Fail

thmaninblack wrote:While Kaiser's logic is somewhat less than infallible, I somewhat agree with him on the fact that Crush Card's usefulness has changed with the meta. With the exception of Infernities and Blackwings, most of the current meta decks lack adequate targets for Crush Card. The only commonly played tributes are sangan and spirit reaper, and maybe battle fader. I can see it coming back for round 2 in the next format.

That doesn't mean I would like it though. The fact that it's an OP lucksack card in the right deck would infuriate a lot of players, me included.

thmaninblack wrote:-_-

I completely forgot about the loli with the demonic bus.

Nevermind, keep the virus banned.

Yoko318 wrote:something noone seems to consider: if you unban broken cards, people who wouldn't have been able to run them with their current decks will either adapt to run them or switch to the most broken deck of the time. If you unban TER, BLSEotB, DMoC, etc. you will have a Chaos format on your hands similar to the one that caused the creation of the banlist in the first place. Also, one of my pet peeves is the "it can be countered" argument. that argument is asinine, because everything can be countered. everything in the game has something that can negate it; doesn't make it any less broken, and it doesn't guarantee you're going to have that counter on the field when your opponent drops their broken **** on you. Chaos Emperor Dragon can be countered, let's unban him. owait, he's still broken.

Badass_Bunny wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't get Kaiser posts?

KingKaiserSW wrote: With the current format relying for on small monsters does this card really pose as a big threat? The most it can do is to rid the field of beatsticks midgame and see what they sraw for 3 turns.

^^ Fail

TheVoid wrote:

Badass_Bunny wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't get Kaiser posts?

KingKaiserSW wrote: With the current format relying for on small monsters does this card really pose as a big threat? The most it can do is to rid the field of beatsticks midgame and see what they sraw for 3 turns.

^^ Fail

Ive been telling Kaiser that he fails for a while... he just doesnt know how to Yugiohs, Im convinced of this.