Light pulsar dragon rulings

**idiot** 2011-10-16, 16:32

1. If light pulsar and redmd are on the field and my opponent uses dark hole, can I use pulsar's effect to bring back that specific redmd in the same way grandmaster of the six samurai brings back itself or another card that was sent to the grave at the same time with it?

2. If I synchro pulsar with say flamvell guard to play black rose and nuke the field, do I get redmd or another lvl5 or higher dark from the grave like how debris nuking works with dandylion (you get the tokens after black rose effect and thus get redmd after black rose's effect)?

3. Also here's a galaxy-eyes photon dragon question, can he banish himself out of traps like saruketsu armor or dimensional fissure? I know he can do this to utopia but can he do this to traps?

**WinterKirby** 2011-10-16, 16:43

idiot wrote:1. If light pulsar and redmd are on the field and my opponent uses dark hole, can I use pulsar's effect to bring back that specific redmd in the same way grandmaster of the six samurai brings back itself or another card that was sent to the grave at the same time with it?

2. If I synchro pulsar with say flamvell guard to play black rose and nuke the field, do I get redmd or another lvl5 or higher dark from the grave like how debris nuking works with dandylion (you get the tokens after black rose effect and thus get redmd after black rose's effect)?

3. Also here's a galaxy-eyes photon dragon question, can he banish himself out of traps like saruketsu armor or dimensional fissure? I know he can do this to utopia but can he do this to traps?

1: Yes. Pulsar's eff doesn't miss any timing and goes off, and the specific REDMD is a valid target for its effect.

2: Yes.

3: No he cannot. Since he's attacking and you have priority, you'd activate his effect first. He doesn't have any other chance, so once the opponent activates a trap, GEPD has missed its opportunity. However, if you do activate his effect and the opponent responds with, say, Mirror Force, GEPD is destroyed, but the opponent's monster is still banished and returns at the end of the Battle Phase.
Upon reading the actual wording of the effect once again, since GEPD can activate at any time during the Battle Step while he's battling, it can be used in response to an opponent's Trap.

**Key** 2011-10-16, 17:42

2. This is undecided, as of the text is unconfirmed, we don't know if the optional effect can or cannot miss the timing.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-16, 17:44

Key wrote:2. This is undecided, as of the text is unconfirmed, we don't know if the optional effect can or cannot miss the timing.

I refuse to believe Konami is so short-sighted and forgetful to let this card NOT miss the timing.

**Key** 2011-10-16, 17:45

There is no way to tell at this point unless you can read Japanese.

Translators are all different, I've used some different ones and got different results from it

**WinterKirby** 2011-10-16, 17:59

The first is the part of LPD's effect that would say "If/When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard,"
The second is the part of Junk Gardna's effect that says "If this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard,"
The third is the part of Sangan's effect that says "When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard,"

このカードがフィールド上から墓地へ送られた場合、
このカードがフィールド上から墓地へ送られた場合、
このカードがフィールド上から墓地へ送られた時、

And the OCG doesn't change the grammar style as often. So although it's unconfirmed, it's still quite likely it will be "If," unless it's changed before its release.

**storyteller** 2011-10-16, 18:13

I read Japanese, and as long as the Japanese text doesn't change from that on the preview of the card, I know that it will not miss timing.

このカードがフィールド上から墓地へ送られた場合
will always be translated as "If ..."

**Key** 2011-10-16, 18:17

Ah!
I missed the 時 word.
Now I know where it is, it's easier to tell.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-16, 18:19

storyteller wrote:I read Japanese, and as long as the Japanese text doesn't change from that on the preview of the card, I know that it will not miss timing.
このカードがフィールド上から墓地へ送られた場合
will always be translated as "If ..."

Starting to think that Mister Raptor made a pretty good move retiring...

**Zephyr** 2011-10-16, 21:37

storyteller wrote:I read Japanese, and as long as the Japanese text doesn't change from that on the preview of the card, I know that it will not miss timing.

このカードがフィールド上から墓地へ送られた場合
will always be translated as "If ..."

but, but i always thought that the "if.." effects are the ones that can miss the timing not the "when..." effects... ok... if this is true then i guess i need to go back to the drawing board of rulings and confuse the hell outta me... yet again =/

**[S]tarstrike** 2011-10-16, 22:37

idiot wrote:3. Also here's a galaxy-eyes photon dragon question, can he banish himself out of traps like saruketsu armor or dimensional fissure? I know he can do this to utopia but can he do this to traps?

Read this: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Tips:Galaxy-Eyes_Photon_Dragon

Unlike "Number 39: Utopia", this card has a Quick Effect, so you CAN use it to dodge dangerous Trap Cards like "Mirror Force", "Dimensional Prison" and "Magic Cylinder".

**BlackwingRa** 2011-10-17, 00:25

This isn't Rulings for Galaxy-Eyes, just some tips. And tips on Wikia can never be trusted! There's no official rulings for Galaxy-Eyes just yet, so we don't know that its effect is Quick or Trigger Effect.

**Zephyr** 2011-10-17, 00:35

BlackwingRa wrote:This isn't Rulings for Galaxy-Eyes, just some tips. And tips on Wikia can never be trusted! There's no official rulings for Galaxy-Eyes just yet, so we don't know that its effect is Quick or Trigger Effect.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Galaxy-Eyes_Photon_Dragon

according to this it's a quick-effect

**Ruf_Pup13** 2011-10-17, 00:41

If this doesnt get changed, Then, I will be very ticked. As for now i stop playing DN in rated with this thing around.
Its So Absurd.

**Key** 2011-10-17, 01:21

Ruf_Pup13 wrote:If this doesnt get changed, Then, I will be very ticked. As for now i stop playing DN in rated with this thing around.
Its So Absurd.

It won't change, OCG text say so.

**Badass_Bunny** 2011-10-17, 13:22

About GEPD:

Yes you can chain it to trap cards to banish himself and monster before it gets destroyed....

**Prince Vegeta** 2011-10-17, 13:35

Badass_Bunny wrote:About GEPD:

Yes you can chain it to trap cards to banish himself and monster before it gets destroyed....

so if i attack with my galaxy-eyes and my opponent does sakuretsu or d-prison i can chain the effect of galaxy-eyes to banish both thus making galaxy-eyes safe from the trap card and letting it "fizzle" with non target?

**Badass_Bunny** 2011-10-17, 13:38

Axel VIII wrote:
Badass_Bunny wrote:About GEPD:

Yes you can chain it to trap cards to banish himself and monster before it gets destroyed....

so if i attack with my galaxy-eyes and my opponent does sakuretsu or d-prison i can chain the effect of galaxy-eyes to banish both thus making galaxy-eyes safe from the trap card and letting it "fizzle" with non target?

According to OCG, yes you can, however keep in mind you can only do it in battle step so you can't save yourself from cards like Forbidden Lance, Honest and such that activate in damage step

**Broken_Soul** 2011-10-17, 13:40

Axel VIII wrote:
Badass_Bunny wrote:About GEPD:

Yes you can chain it to trap cards to banish himself and monster before it gets destroyed....

so if i attack with my galaxy-eyes and my opponent does sakuretsu or d-prison i can chain the effect of galaxy-eyes to banish both thus making galaxy-eyes safe from the trap card and letting it "fizzle" with non target?

yes Ax you can banish your Photon dragon and the opponent monster to do that

**Prince Vegeta** 2011-10-17, 14:39

Badass_Bunny wrote:
Axel VIII wrote:
Badass_Bunny wrote:About GEPD:

Yes you can chain it to trap cards to banish himself and monster before it gets destroyed....

so if i attack with my galaxy-eyes and my opponent does sakuretsu or d-prison i can chain the effect of galaxy-eyes to banish both thus making galaxy-eyes safe from the trap card and letting it "fizzle" with non target?

According to OCG, yes you can, however keep in mind you can only do it in battle step so you can't save yourself from cards like Forbidden Lance, Honest and such that activate in damage step

Broken_Soul wrote:
Axel VIII wrote:
Badass_Bunny wrote:About GEPD:

Yes you can chain it to trap cards to banish himself and monster before it gets destroyed....

so if i attack with my galaxy-eyes and my opponent does sakuretsu or d-prison i can chain the effect of galaxy-eyes to banish both thus making galaxy-eyes safe from the trap card and letting it "fizzle" with non target?

yes Ax you can banish your Photon dragon and the opponent monster to do that

ok thanks guys specially badass bunny for the battle step tip Wink

guess galaxy eyes is my new toy

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