Resolving question

So....


Me: I have neos alius equipped with safe zone and E.Hero stratos on field
Opp: Malefic rainbow draon and malefic world field spell


1. He attack my stratos
2. I flip gemini spark targeting his malefic world

How this gonna resolve... ?

SITUATION II

My side:
Skyscapper 2 on field
Super poly on field
Stratos on graveyard

Opp Side:
BTH

Situation:
I use field effect... summoning stratos, pick seaching effect
Opp flip BTH
I chain super poly, discarding cost.

Did statos miss the timing for search ?


I forgot what is opp monster... pretty much its effect monster...

I think it was something that trigger when leave field

1st situation:
You must tribute Alius for Gemini Sparks first because it is a cost.
After you tribute Alius, You target Malefic World, Malefic World is destroyed due to Gemini Sparks, then you draw 1 card. After Gemini Sparks resolved, Safe Zone and Malefic Rainbow is destroyed due to their own effects.

2nd situation:
Stratos's effect already activated, cannot miss timing anymore. You will Fusion a monsters then search and Bottomless will resolves without effect.

Safe Zone will be immediately destroyed when Alius leaves the field, before anything can chain to Spark.

Safe Zone destruction in that situation affects nothing, so the timing of its destruction doesn't matter much.

On very rare situation....

E.Hero nova master on field, attacking face down morphing jar

1) Draw for Nova eff first then discard all cards in hand, and draw 5

or
2) Discard all card in the hand, draw 5, and draw 1 for nova eff ?


(So... between safe zone and gemini spark effect which one comes first ? Drawing first or Destryctuion of Safe zone ?)

2) Discard all card in the hand, draw 5, and draw 1 for nova eff

is the answer

cause Flip effect activates before the monster is destroyed

The answer is right, but monster is destroyed by battle BEFORE Flip Effect can be activated. When a monster is destroyed by battle, doesn't mean it leaves the field... yet.

Situation IV:

E. Hero Nova Master & E.Hero The Shinin on field

2 RFG HERO



I attack opp ryko with nova master, and opp choose to destroy E. hero the shining.

how this work in order ? ( I knew E.Hero the shining miss the timing because ryko mill)

Nova Master attacks Ryko -> Ryko flips face-up -> Ryko is destroyed by battle -> Ryko's effect activates -> destroyed The Shining -> Ryko mills makes The Shining miss the timing -> Ryko sent to grave -> then Nova Master's eff activates, you draw 1 card.

Case V:



I attack his(her?) monster with E.hero lady heat...

Opp use karakuri klock

I chain Starlight road because I have 2 monster(s)

Opp use malovent...



How does this resolve ? Does my monster still wiped out ?

Malevolent Catastrophe doesnt' negate anything, it just destroys spells and traps. It's like MST on a bigger scale.

kangtuji wrote:Case V:

I attack his(her?) monster with E.hero lady heat...
Opp use karakuri klock
I chain Starlight road because I have 2 monster(s)
Opp use malovent...
How does this resolve ? Does my monster still wiped out ?

Destroy ≠ Negate. The Spells/Traps are negtaed, then Klock is negated.

Potus-Mat wrote:
Destroy ≠ Negate. The Spells/Traps are negtaed, then Klock is negated.

Which card you're talking about ?

So malovent destroy first... destoying starlight,... can I still summon stardust and negating klock ? Summoning stardust is optional right ? Miss the timing ?

kangtuji wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:
Destroy ≠ Negate. The Spells/Traps are negtaed, then Klock is negated.

Which card you're talking about ?
So malovent destroy first... destoying starlight,... can I still summon stardust and negating klock ?

Klock is negated, but you cannot summon Stardust.

kangtuji wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:
Destroy ≠ Negate. The Spells/Traps are negtaed, then Klock is negated.

Which card you're talking about ?

So malovent destroy first... destoying starlight,... can I still summon stardust and negating klock ? Summoning stardust is optional right ? Miss the timing ?

The card has already been activated. Summoning Stardust wouldn't start a new chain, it happens at Starlight's resolution and doesn't ever have to worry about timing.

Potus-Mat wrote:
Klock is negated, but you cannot summon Stardust.

Miror B. wrote:The card has already been activated. Summoning Stardust wouldn't start a new chain, it happens at Starlight's resolution and doesn't ever have to worry about timing.

Uh... which one is correct ?

Potus-Mat wrote:

kangtuji wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:
Destroy ≠ Negate. The Spells/Traps are negtaed, then Klock is negated.

Which card you're talking about ?
So malovent destroy first... destoying starlight,... can I still summon stardust and negating klock ?

Klock is negated, but you cannot summon Stardust.

I'm sorry, but I don't understand the logic. Starlight went through, why wouldn't it summon Stardust?

kangtuji wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:
Klock is negated, but you cannot summon Stardust.

Miror B. wrote:The card has already been activated. Summoning Stardust wouldn't start a new chain, it happens at Starlight's resolution and doesn't ever have to worry about timing.

Uh... which one is correct ?

I am, obviously.
"If you negate an effect with “Starlight Road” but cannot destroy the card, you cannot Special Summon “Stardust Dragon."

Potus-Mat wrote:

kangtuji wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:
Klock is negated, but you cannot summon Stardust.

Miror B. wrote:The card has already been activated. Summoning Stardust wouldn't start a new chain, it happens at Starlight's resolution and doesn't ever have to worry about timing.

Uh... which one is correct ?

I am, obviously.
"If you negate an effect with “Starlight Road” but cannot destroy the card, you cannot Special Summon “Stardust Dragon."

I see, though the "obviously" wasn't really needed.

Miror B. wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:

kangtuji wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:
Klock is negated, but you cannot summon Stardust.

Miror B. wrote:The card has already been activated. Summoning Stardust wouldn't start a new chain, it happens at Starlight's resolution and doesn't ever have to worry about timing.

Uh... which one is correct ?

I am, obviously.
"If you negate an effect with “Starlight Road” but cannot destroy the card, you cannot Special Summon “Stardust Dragon."

I see, though the "obviously" wasn't really needed.

I see, though the "though the 'obviously' wasn't really needed" was not really needed.

Potus-Mat wrote:

Miror B. wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:

kangtuji wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:
Klock is negated, but you cannot summon Stardust.

Miror B. wrote:The card has already been activated. Summoning Stardust wouldn't start a new chain, it happens at Starlight's resolution and doesn't ever have to worry about timing.

Uh... which one is correct ?

I am, obviously.
"If you negate an effect with “Starlight Road” but cannot destroy the card, you cannot Special Summon “Stardust Dragon."

I see, though the "obviously" wasn't really needed.

I see, though the "though the 'obviously' wasn't really needed" was not really needed.

wtf is this?

BlackwingRa wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:

Miror B. wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:

kangtuji wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:
Klock is negated, but you cannot summon Stardust.

Miror B. wrote:The card has already been activated. Summoning Stardust wouldn't start a new chain, it happens at Starlight's resolution and doesn't ever have to worry about timing.

Uh... which one is correct ?

I am, obviously.
"If you negate an effect with “Starlight Road” but cannot destroy the card, you cannot Special Summon “Stardust Dragon."

I see, though the "obviously" wasn't really needed.

I see, though the "though the 'obviously' wasn't really needed" was not really needed.

wtf is this?

Drama

Ok.... heres a rare situation

I am against another HERO deck

My opp summons E-Hero Abs Zero
I use compulsory evac. device
E hero ab0 return to deck

Now....

His effect active, would destroying my ocean equipped with safe zone and nova master

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Now... the question was :

1, Would I really able to use starligh road ?

2. If E.hero ocean wasn't equipped with safe zone,
2a. let sat I able to use Starlight road... Can I negate ab0 ?
2b. Would negated E-hero AB0 stay on extra ? (read starlight road text)

(I've slight misplay here... can you spot ?)

1) It is returned to Extra Deck and actives its effect.

2) The protected monsters won't be destroyed.

Well...

I am not asking about safe zone,
I am asking Starlight Road resolution

Both your anwser doesn't answer at all about starlight road

1) Starlight can be actived.

2) AZ will be destroyed in Extra Deck and sent to grave.

Are you sure you can activated starlight road after you read safe zone ?

Also did you know card in extra deck cann't be destroyed ?

Do you know what happen if you solemn warning a GB tag ?

1) Starlight doesn't care if your cards would be destroyed or not. It does care about your opp's effect would destroy your card or not.

2) Cards in Extra Deck can be destroyed, cards in Deck cannot.

Did you read AZ's rulings?

Wrong page, cheack http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Starlight_Road

Again you posting wrong rule again, why would I listen to someone doesn't know his rulings at all
Also unless I am blind, you seems doesn't have any flag

1) I am talking about AZ and destruction in Extra Deck.

2) Do you see the yellow star inside a red ball (I am talking about the AVARTAR)?

3) Am from your page: "If you control 2 face-up monsters including “Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6” and your opponent activates “Lightning Vortex,” you can activate “Starlight Road.”[1]"

Looks like Magicknight is right on all accounts...Starlight can be activated, Absolute Zero will be negated and sent from Extra to graveyard, and you get a Stardust. As far as I can tell, anyways.

Really... ?
Since you might not knew what is the context of question, here let me post again

kangtuji wrote:Ok.... heres a rare situation

I am against another HERO deck

My opp summons E-Hero Abs Zero
I use compulsory evac. device
E hero ab0 return to deck

Now....

His effect active, would destroying my ocean equipped with safe zone and nova master

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Now... the question was :

1, Would I really able to use starligh road ?

2. If E.hero ocean wasn't equipped with safe zone,
2a. let sat I able to use Starlight road... Can I negate ab0 ?
2b. Would negated E-hero AB0 stay on extra ? (read starlight road text)

(I've slight misplay here... can you spot ?)

I am not asking about AB0 nor Safe Zone, which he doesn't go on right track, and saying he right at all account would be laughable

I thought my answers is:

Magicknight94 wrote:1) Starlight can be actived.

2) AZ will be destroyed in Extra Deck and sent to grave.

Sorry, I don't want hear or accept answer from someone doesn't even know what is the context of question

Anyone else except magicalknight94 please give some answer / explaination, (but I guess I'll ended checking wiki instead)

kangtuji wrote:Sorry, I don't want hear or accept answer from someone doesn't even know what is the context of question

Anyone else except magicalknight94 please give some answer / explaination, (but I guess I'll ended checking wiki instead)

And what happen if other ppl say I was right? Would you listen to me then?

1) You can use Starlight Road, even though E.Hero Ocean can't be destroyed, it only matters that Absolute Zero's effect would destroy multiple cards.

2a)Absolute Zero's effect would be negated by Starlight Road, and since it was sent to the Extra Deck, it can and is destroyed and sent to the graveyard. Since Absolute Zero's effect was negated and it was destroyed, you can then special summon Stardust Dragon from your Extra Deck. If Absolute Zero was instead sent to the graveyard or banished zone, then the effect is negated but you do not get to summon Stardust Dragon since Absolute Zero was not destroyed by Starlight Road.

2b)No, the negated Absolute Zero would not stay in the Extra Deck, since it was destroyed and sent to the graveyard by Starlight Road.

All of this essentially answers your questions and was exactly what Magicknight said, just not as specifically as I just did.

EDIT -
In fact, on Starlight Road's rulings page...

"Suppose that "Elemental Hero Absolute Zero" is returned from the field to the Extra Deck and its effect activates. If you Chain "Starlight Road" to the effect, then the effect is negated and the "Elemental Hero Absolute Zero" in the Extra Deck is destroyed. Also, you can then use the effect of "Starlight Road" to Special Summon "Stardust Dragon".[14]"

yes, that was the ruling page I was posted

the problem is how can you be sure statlight road would still active, what is your base assumption since Ab0 would only destroy 1

The ruling posted by Magicknight94

If you control 2 face-up monsters including “Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6” and your opponent activates “Lightning Vortex,” you can activate “Starlight Road.”[1]

should suffice to say you can activate Starlight road to Zero.

Magicknight94 knows his rulings, that's 1 thing I can't doubt on.

And another things, you trust me, why cannot you trust magicknight? Extra Deck works different from Main Deck, have you ever seen a player shuffles their Extra Deck everytime a card(s) return to it? Cards in Main Deck cannot be destroyed, but cards in Extra Deck can be, end of the story.

I am aware this answer might causes unneeded drama... but here the replies :

I simply doesn't believe strangeres who doesn't read context, misleading and telling lies.

- Not answering proper resolution
- Giving links to AB0 instead what I was questioning
- and telling he had flag while he not

And I've pointed all of these point before

So.... the answer

Ultimate lol wrote:The ruling posted by Magicknight94

If you control 2 face-up monsters including “Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV6” and your opponent activates “Lightning Vortex,” you can activate “Starlight Road.”[1]

should suffice to say you can activate Starlight road to Zero.

kangtuji wrote:My opp summons E-Hero Abs Zero

You stated Ab0 here. He was replying about the Ab0 that you used, and gave you a full response about how Starlight did in fact destroy something and could fully resolve.

Full response ?
No sir... all he did was posting one-liner, Twice

and I was not questioning ab0 effect nor safe zone effect

kangtuji wrote:Full response ?
No sir... all he did was posting one-liner, Twice

and I was not questioning ab0 effect nor safe zone effect

I do that sometimes ...

Yes I also do that too sometime,

No the point is someone said "full response", but the answer not even what i was questioning about (and he didn't answer ALL the questions.)

Here, I am quoting my question again in case you guys missing what I was actually asking

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kangtuji wrote:Ok.... heres a rare situation

I am against another HERO deck

My opp summons E-Hero Abs Zero
I use compulsory evac. device
E hero ab0 return to deck

Now....

His effect active, would destroying my ocean equipped with safe zone and nova master

---

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Now... the question was :

1, Would I really able to use starligh road ?

2. If E.hero ocean wasn't equipped with safe zone,
2a. let sat I able to use Starlight road... Can I negate ab0 ?
2b. Would negated E-hero AB0 stay on extra ? (read starlight road text)

(I've slight misplay here... can you spot ?)

and "FULL ANSWER" is :

Magicknight94 wrote:1) It is returned to Extra Deck and actives its effect.

2) The protected monsters won't be destroyed.

OK, I'll give you the answers for your questions:
1. Yes you are able to use Starlight Road cause Zero would destroys your monsters. Starlight Road doesn't care the cards it protects can be destroyed or not, it only cares the number of cards that meet its requirement "2 or more cards you control".
2a. Yes you can negate Absolute Zero with Starlight Road, same explaination above.
2b. The negated Absolute Zero will be destroyed by Starlight Road and sent to grave from the Extra Deck, and you can Special Summon Stardust Dragon through Starlight Road's effect.

Is that OK with you?

I've deleted the posts that would have offended people
Let's not continue

Wikia once had a false rulings about Starlight Road vs Absolute Zero, but now it's gone. And for anyone says cards in Extra Deck cannot be destroyed, read this:

When "Elemental Hero Absolute Zero" is returned to the Extra Deck, its effect activates, and "Divine Wrath" can be chained. "Divine Wrath" will negate the effect and "Elemental Hero Absolute Zero" will be destroyed and sent from the Extra Deck to the Graveyard.[7]

Chain Destruction can destroy cards in deck
But it's the only exception

Yeah, that's card is the only exception, like Greed Quasar is the only monster that can bypass level 12 by its own effect.