Resolving question

There's no limit in the monster's level
Just that so far only Greed Quasar can go over 12
But let's not discuss that here.

kangtuji: eff
streetcloud: ur going to laugh
streetcloud: lol
kangtuji has lost 200 life points
streetcloud: to me its funny
streetcloud: .lol
streetcloud: eff
streetcloud: eff
kangtuji has lost 800 life points
kangtuji: field eff
kangtuji: destroy
streetcloud: oh eff
streetcloud: eff
streetcloud: 1
kangtuji has lost 700 life points
kangtuji: ok
kangtuji: zero eff
streetcloud: eff doesn't work
kangtuji: ?
kangtuji: what
streetcloud: super poly
kangtuji: yes super poly
kangtuji: zero effect
streetcloud: last sentence
kangtuji: ?
kangtuji: i am not chaining anything to super poly
streetcloud: Spells, Traps, and Effect Monsters' effects cannot be activated in response to this card's activation.
kangtuji: zero effect are separate effect from super poly
kangtuji: it still destroy monster even you use super poly
streetcloud: When this card leaves the field:
kangtuji: its not like the shining who would miss
streetcloud: poly stops it
kangtuji: nope
streetcloud: it stops dude
streetcloud: read up on it
kangtuji: no its not, zero effect is mandatory, the last line on super poly means it only stop anthing that would chaining to super poly
kangtuji: and zero effect is not chained to super poly
streetcloud: response
kangtuji: so it would still destroy your monster even you use ab0 as super poly fuzion material
streetcloud: is different then chain
kangtuji: duh
streetcloud: dude read up on the card i know i'm right
kangtuji: its same like even you use super poly, opp would still use Bottmless trap hole
streetcloud: i played mad games and did the same thing and notin happened
kangtuji: dude, you read it wrong
streetcloud: no he won't
kangtuji: we are not playing mad games, we playing YGO, normal game
streetcloud: omg
kangtuji: ....
streetcloud: dude i played yugioh tag force 5
kangtuji: super poly DOES NOT stop ab0 effect
streetcloud: it does
streetcloud: 2 secs
kangtuji: no it doesn't
streetcloud: u know wat
streetcloud: u win
kangtuji: its not matter of win, its matter of correct rule
streetcloud: but i know i'm right
kangtuji: DUH.... you aren't
kangtuji: super poly DOES not stop AB0
streetcloud: it does it stops efects all together



Do super poly stop AB0 eff ?

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streetcloud: but i know i'm right
kangtuji: DUH.... you aren't
kangtuji: super poly DOES not stop AB0
streetcloud: it does it stops efects all together
streetcloud has lost 1000 life points
kangtuji has lost 1500 life points
kangtuji: mislcik
kangtuji: response ?
streetcloud: no
kangtuji: 3200 atk
streetcloud: i know
kangtuji: k
kangtuji: -200
streetcloud has lost 200 life points
kangtuji: the shining eff
kangtuji has lost 1500 life points
kangtuji has lost 1700 life points
kangtuji: ocean eff
kangtuji: what
kangtuji: the shining miss the timing you know
kangtuji: ....
streetcloud: how?
kangtuji: last thing happen is fusion summon, not the shining being send to grave
kangtuji: THIS is why super poly the shining would not activate the effect
kangtuji: ab0 effect is mandatory, even you use super poly it would still active
streetcloud: dude super poly is a different story
kangtuji: but the shining is different, he is OPTIONAL effect
kangtuji: no you don't get effect if you use the hsining as fusionmaterial
streetcloud: dude me and my friends been to mad touriments this works
kangtuji: you probably use super poly on you TF game, and doesn't know why the shining doestn' get the effect
streetcloud: and that super poly works too
kangtuji: lol no
streetcloud: u know wat
kangtuji: what kind tournament you winning with those rules
kangtuji: you doesn't know what is optiona, or what is mandatory or what is miss the timing
streetcloud: there is a spectator dude
streetcloud: dude abe is a trigger eff
streetcloud: and so is the shining
kangtuji: duh
kangtuji: its mandatroy / optional effect
streetcloud: they work not unless something stops them
kangtuji: not trigger or ignition effect
kangtuji: *facepalm*

no zero keeps effect to wipe also in youre situation 2 stratos doesnt loose timeing because he was summoned the only way you cant search is if the summon is negated through solemn or something like it

Sorry, in the middle that of duel before I could given question for #2

In case 2,
he fusion summon AB0 with normal polymerization,
using The shining on the field + E.Hero ocean on the hand as material

After AB0 summoned, he grab 2 RFG hero.. thinking The shining was sent to grave, thus activating its effect.

So The question would be... does E-hero the shining miss the timing when he use poly

no baecause poly says Send Fusion Material Monsters that are listed on a Fusion Monster Card from your hand or your side of the field to the Graveyard, and Special Summon that Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck. see how the effect hits

Okay.... let me rephrase my question again...

kangtuji wrote:So The question would be... does E-hero the shining miss the timing when he use(d as) poly (material)

no because he is still sent to the graveyard as long as he is sent to the graveyard he gets the effect no matter how or why he did

MK_ultra wrote:no because he is still sent to the graveyard as long as he is sent to the graveyard he gets the effect no matter how or why he did

Please dont answer if you dont know the answer.

Shining would miss timing because the last thing to happen would be the new fusion being summoned to the field and not Shining going to the grave.

no because wouldnt shining hit grave then hiss effect go off then fusion monster is summoned

The Shining will miss timing. It actually misses timing very easily. When you use poly, you send shining and ocean to the grave. Normally Shining would have to activate now. But we are in the middle of a resoling card (poly) that has not fusion summoned jet. So shining going to the grave is not the last thing to happen thus he will miss timing.

1) @kangtuji: I won't fight with you, I will fight with this guys, ok?

MK_ultra wrote:no because wouldnt shining hit grave then hiss effect go off then fusion monster is summoned

2) Seriously, do you know what is "Missing the timing"?

Sent materials to grave and fusion summon is parts of Polymerization's effect.

Nothing can be actived while another effect is resolving.

Stupid ppl always try to argue what they think is right when it's obviously wrong.
1st case: Definitely Zero's effect will go off, cause Super Poly's effect already resolved, and Zero's effect will start a new chain.
2nd case: Never use The Shining as Fusion Material Monster, it will definitely MISS THE TIMING, and CANNOT ACTIVATE ITS EFFECT. And yeah magicknight94, MK_ultra has no idea what missing the timing is, obviously he never faces the situation when The Shining attacks a face-down Ryko and then Ryko destroys The Shining.