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Post  Phraxure 2011-12-22, 17:07

If you control a face up White Dragon Ninja, and activate Gold Conversion, do you draw 2 cards, or will it not resolve because my Ninjitsu art cards cannot be destroyed?
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Post  MK_ultra 2011-12-22, 17:32

you just draw 2 because white drag ninja's eff chains to gold conversion not negateing it
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Post  3E-hero neos 2011-12-22, 17:33

Well you draw after destruction, although it's not cost I'm not entirely sure it'll work as a PoG.
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Post  MK_ultra 2011-12-22, 17:59

no i think my explination would work because here is gold conversion eff

When you control 1 face-up "Ninjitsu Art" card(s): Destroy all "Ninjitsu Art" card(s) you control and then draw 2 cards.

and here is white drag ninja eff well at least the eff that maters

Spell/Trap Cards you control cannot be destroyed by card effects.
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Post  Barricade 2011-12-22, 18:07

I think the only need to activate the card is that you have 1 face up NA card
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Post  Tcbskater 2011-12-22, 18:28

MK_ultra wrote:you just draw 2 because white drag ninja's eff chains to gold conversion not negateing it

While it is correct that you draw 2 because you are not required to destroy a Ninjitsu Art card, White Dragon Ninja's effect is continuous and does not use chain.
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Post  Key 2011-12-22, 18:35

Q: 《宮廷のしきたり》をチェーンされ、 破壊されなかった場合、ドローできますか?
A:いいえ、できません。 (11/11/19)

Q:複数の忍法が存在する時にその1枚は《カードガード》のガードカウンターにより破壊されず、他の忍法が破壊された場合、全ての忍法は破壊されませんが、その場合でもドローする効果は適用されますか?
A:はい、 適用されます。 (11/11/28)

If I'm reading them correctly, you need to destroy at least 1 card in order to draw 2
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Post  Phraxure 2011-12-22, 18:44

I thought so. Didn't know you could read Japanese Key Razz
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Post  Tcbskater 2011-12-22, 18:58

Key wrote:Q: 《宮廷のしきたり》をチェーンされ、 破壊されなかった場合、ドローできますか?
A:いいえ、できません。 (11/11/19)

Q:複数の忍法が存在する時にその1枚は《カードガード》のガードカウンターにより破壊されず、他の忍法が破壊された場合、全ての忍法は破壊されませんが、その場合でもドローする効果は適用されますか?
A:はい、 適用されます。 (11/11/28)

If I'm reading them correctly, you need to destroy at least 1 card in order to draw 2

Okay, that's infinitely helpful that someone can read Japanese. Strange how this wasn't translated for the OCG rulings of Yu-Gi-Oh wiki.
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Post  Soulstarter 2011-12-23, 03:11

Key wrote:Q: 《宮廷のしきたり》をチェーンされ、 破壊されなかった場合、ドローできますか?
A:いいえ、できません。 (11/11/19)

Q:複数の忍法が存在する時にその1枚は《カードガード》のガードカウンターにより破壊されず、他の忍法が破壊された場合、全ての忍法は破壊されませんが、その場合でもドローする効果は適用されますか?
A:はい、 適用されます。 (11/11/28)

If I'm reading them correctly, you need to destroy at least 1 card in order to draw 2

Not so sure about this one..

From the yugioh wikia tips -

Activate "Armored Ninjitsu Art: Gold Conversion" to draw 2 cards without losing your Ninjitsu Art cards.
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Post  Tsunayoshi 2011-12-23, 03:31

The thing is Soul, is that stuff on the wikia may not be completely accurate.
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Post  Key 2011-12-23, 03:44

Tip section mostly
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Post  Tsunayoshi 2011-12-23, 03:47

Key wrote:Tip section mostly

In this case their tip is entirely dependent on if White Dragon Ninja would prevent Gold Conversion from resolving properly.
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Post  mido9 2011-12-23, 07:36

If you control 1 face-up "Ninjitsu Art" card(s): Destroy all face-up "Ninjitsu Art" card(s) you control, then draw 2 cards.

The effect is not a cost.

if the prior condition is not meant, whatever comes after "then" will also not activate.

Same with Dark World Lightning for example,if no card is destroyed then you do not discard a card from your hand.
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Post  raidou 2011-12-23, 09:08

like starlight road 'negate and destroy , then you can special summon 1 stardust dragon'



dont pay attention to wikia tips those are 'captain obvious' tips or arent even based on card rulings
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Post  Phraxure 2011-12-23, 09:20

So it doesn't resolve and you are not able to draw 2 cards?
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Post  BlackwingRa 2011-12-23, 09:24

It will resolves without effect and you won't draw 2 cards, but in my opinion you can't activate it at the first place.
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Post  Badass_Bunny 2011-12-23, 09:26

Destroy then Draw, since you don't destroy you don't draw. Mido gave the best example.
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Post  BlackwingRa 2011-12-23, 09:31

So in conclusion, never use Ninjutsu Art of Gold Conversion while White Dragon Ninja is on the field with its effect applying.
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Post  Phraxure 2011-12-23, 14:52

Thanks guys.
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