DN Down

**Black Luster SoldierCOPY** 2011-06-22, 14:52

It appears that someone from Konami has filed a DMCA on Dueling Network. The server provider was required to take down the site until this can be resolved.

Please stay calm during this time. I am working on contacting Konami and am hoping they will be reasonable about resolving this issue. I do not know how long this will take.

- BLS

Edit: It may have been a false DCMA sent by a person pretending to represent Konami. Do not jump to any conclusions.

**Goddess nX** 2011-06-22, 14:56

Knowing konami, it can be anywhere from a couple of hours to a couple of weeks. Blegh.

**KaousFaustXIII** 2011-06-22, 14:57

so they finally saw it huh... as long as you're not making money from this i wouldn't worry too much about it.

**OrangeNova** 2011-06-22, 14:59

KaousFaustXIII wrote:so they finally saw it huh... as long as you're not making money from this i wouldn't worry too much about it.

For a DMCA it doesn't matter if it's NFP.

**death-coder** 2011-06-22, 15:01

Goddess nX wrote:Knowing konami, it can be anywhere from a couple of hours to a couple of weeks. Blegh.

knowing konami, they replied to me once after 5 months so ... i say we all quit ygo meanwhile and get out ( placido ) to take some fresh air so ur brain can reason

**IceClimberx17** 2011-06-22, 15:02

I hope it comes back up soon. >.<

**Ultimate lol** 2011-06-22, 15:03

Did they ever do this with other duel simulators? Why is this one different? Legally speaking.

**Aman** 2011-06-22, 15:03

So sad day

Good luck BLS

**OrangeNova** 2011-06-22, 15:04

Honestly the best bet would be to make a distributable file and pass it around for people to use, something like YVD.

I don't know why this wasn't done before.

**RanmaSaotome** 2011-06-22, 15:04

Any way there are other dueling methods for online lets use this forum to start those with skype accounts and you know there are many other ways to duel

**Sexy Candy Panda** 2011-06-22, 15:04

now i gotta use REAL cards ugh...

**G-Mac** 2011-06-22, 15:04

Knowing Konami DN may never be up and running again also whats a DMCA??
I'm not very good with all that Legal stuff.

**Nate River** 2011-06-22, 15:06

G-Mac wrote:Knowing Konami DN may never be up and running again also whats a DMCA??
I'm not very good with all that Legal stuff.

DMCA is Digital Millenium Copyright Act.

**NightSkies** 2011-06-22, 15:07

ah, i thought it wasn't KONAMI LOL. just down for the upgrades. now knowing that KONAMI is behind all of this. makes me kinda lazy to online sigh..

**Joco** 2011-06-22, 15:08

KONAMI owns. Cool

**TenZa** 2011-06-22, 15:09

Ultimate lol wrote:Did they ever do this with other duel simulators? Why is this one different? Legally speaking.

It's not different. I come from a background coding games for BYOND (the program/community that made DMG) and rights owners have been recently attacking games left and right with DMCAs... Free or not I'm sure Konami doesn't like the fact that this game is taking all their YuGiOh Online customers.

**scrub** 2011-06-22, 15:09

Black Luster Soldier wrote:It appears that someone from Konami has filed a DMCA on Dueling Network. The server provider was required to take down the site until this can be resolved.

Please stay calm during this time. I am working on contacting Konami and am hoping they will be reasonable about resolving this issue. I do not know how long this will take.

- BLS

Wow first gold series 4, now this. You wanna murder my mom too Konami! This is rather unfortunate and I hope it gets resolved quickly.

**RanmaSaotome** 2011-06-22, 15:10

Well looks like I will have to find some other thing and using real cards isn't that bad Candy Panda i use my real cards any way on DN to test my real deck especially the one i am gonna use at the anime convention i am going to

**SIlas** 2011-06-22, 15:11

konami, i hate you, but i need you

**Dudeboy20** 2011-06-22, 15:12

Wow, because of one picture. Just one picture in a password change. But, why do they want to shut it down anyway? Just ask to change the picture. But Konami relizes the smallest of details. Like DMU. Hope it comes back soon. Cheers BLS.

No R.I.P please.
2011~

**SIlas** 2011-06-22, 15:12

Make like DMG guys: Change de game's name -qqqqq

**Chtonian** 2011-06-22, 15:12

maybe you can move the whole application to another server until this issue has been fixed ?
i cannot understand why konami does not hire you as legal staff member to create a fully legal version of dueling network -.-

same with kino.to in germany -.-

fucking status quo!

**RanmaSaotome** 2011-06-22, 15:13

kinda weird that without konami there would be no Yugioh card game and thus no DN but at the same time we could lose DN because of konami

**SIlas** 2011-06-22, 15:14

Konami dudes delete all game, or only shutdown server?

**Joco** 2011-06-22, 15:14

I will speak with Kazuki Takahashi about this...

**Ranqer022** 2011-06-22, 15:14

Eh... Just when I wanted to test a few ideas I had for the upcoming tournament, sure I got loads of time, but will it be enough? S'ppose I can continue battling my mates IRL, though not as difficult or interesting.

Hope everything goes well BLS

**Blaster** 2011-06-22, 15:15

thats really so sad i hope konami give an answer early 'cause all of us need play DN D;

**Andtidus** 2011-06-22, 15:15

i do hope this gets resolved quickly, i wanna contunue to test various decks i was planning on building, good luck bls

**Android Force** 2011-06-22, 15:16

dont forget their name is on the back of our cards so we could very well lose DN. Back to kcvds everyone XD

**Red-Eyed King** 2011-06-22, 15:16

Well they did do this to DMG a while back until UD put in the Copyright stuff saying that Konami owned Yugioh and all its rights were reserved to them and blah blah blah. So really DN might be back up sooner then we all might think. Took DMG like a couple days before it was back up and running.

**LordLouie** 2011-06-22, 15:17

Wow :/

**SIlas** 2011-06-22, 15:18

Lets stop buy YGO cards, like a boss -qqqqqqqqq

So... konami delete the game or only shut down server?

**IceClimberx17** 2011-06-22, 15:19

Anyone think that Kaiba the creator of KCVDS might've snitched?

**RanmaSaotome** 2011-06-22, 15:20

you might be right all they technically have to do is give konami credit for DN because as i said earlier if konami did not make the yugioh card game we would be not playing DN anyway

**Dudeboy20** 2011-06-22, 15:21

Dunno why thie hating. I mean Konami and YU-GI-OH is getting a hell more popular because of this. Why are they gonna rage and analyse such a good website which not directly affiliated with Konami but boosting them. Its a logo. Yes its theres however, clearly it claims they are not affiliated with Konami, a minor mistake but whatever. More people playing YU-GI-OH. More Money. Its ridicule. Let Bygons be Bygons.

**SIlas** 2011-06-22, 15:23

IceClimberx17 wrote:Anyone think that Kaiba the creator of KCVDS might've snitched?

Kaiba(KCVDS owner) and UD(DMG owner), through the same things.

**Codebreaker V** 2011-06-22, 15:24

lol, if there was ever a time to organize a worldwide Rage Quit of yugioh, it would be now. hahaha~ Theres alot of people in the game who are experienced at rage quitting ;P

**Red-Eyed King** 2011-06-22, 15:24

Believe me, put in the Copyright stuff that say Konami owns Yugioh and we will have DN back. It worked for DMG and will work for DN.

**RanmaSaotome** 2011-06-22, 15:24

good point dudeboy20 and might I ad a good refrence and yeah they should let bygons be bygons because when people do things like DN and also Yugioh abridged they make the officail stuff more popular

**iPowers** 2011-06-22, 15:25

I hate that this happened. Dude honestly maybe you can form an alliance with Konami and get more attention. This shouldn't be happening honestly. I can see the big deal if you guys were making money or making cards or something but this is just for fun.

idk i've always hated the DMCA. They go out of control when it comes to stuff like this and anime music videos and stuff. It's out of control.

**Snakedoc(Lord)** 2011-06-22, 15:26

this is a big fail...
and a terrible thing,i hope this gets resolved fast...
konami is jeleus....
BLS i hope u fix ur problems...
And in case u need any type of help let me know

**Harper7000** 2011-06-22, 15:27

this is ridiculous, i just want to freaking duel. i swear, if i have to go back to crappy KCVDS...i don't know what i'll do

**Warb** 2011-06-22, 15:28

Red-Eyed King wrote:Believe me, put in the Copyright stuff that say Konami owns Yugioh and we will have DN back. It worked for DMG and will work for DN.

this man got it!

**Rave** 2011-06-22, 15:28

How can they do this? Your not making profit, claiming the name or doing anything other then hosting a FANGAME! .-.

**Codebreaker V** 2011-06-22, 15:28

I wont ever use KC...and Id hate to have to dust off YVD...

**Goddess nX** 2011-06-22, 15:30

Red-Eyed King wrote:Believe me, put in the Copyright stuff that say Konami owns Yugioh and we will have DN back. It worked for DMG and will work for DN.

This usually works.

@Ipowers: Only problem is that they start to control everything you do. It ends up becoming YGO online all over again :/

**TheLightningOne** 2011-06-22, 15:31

It's Not that simple.

Konami has an online dueling system called Yugi-Oh online, as well as multiple video games that have wi-fi/ electronic dueling capabilities.

As such Konami sees dueling websites such as this and KCVDS as taking away their profits.

In Konami's eyes, why would you pay for something that is free. Which is true... many duelists on Dueling Network don't want to pay for Yugi-Oh Cards or games. Either because of the principle that they can do it for free or because they simply do not have the funds.

This is not to imply that every duelist on Dueling Network doesn't play in real life etc, simply that in Konami's eyes, this could cause people not to buy products.

The concept is a fundamentally sound one that has effected many electronic industries such as video. IE: Youtube.

Konami simply is taking the approach to crackdown on things that it finds threatening to its property before they truly eat into its profits.

Unfortunately for us, we get the short end of the stick, losing a way to playtest and have fun when not within range to duel irl.

Alas business is business and the only two options available to us is to protest or continue with life.

I hope Konami forgoes this beef with Dueling Network and lets it be. Me personally I like having something to playtest on everyonce in awhile.

TLDR Version: Konami wants money, Dueling Network has a possibility of eating at some of it's profits, hope Konami doenst destroy Dueling Network.

**RanmaSaotome** 2011-06-22, 15:32

Yea DN is the only one other than yugioh online that worked decently the only thing I hate about Yugioh online is that i have to download it to my system and that I have to buy tons of virtual packs with real money to even get close to using my real deck

**bakura normal** 2011-06-22, 15:32

what would rage quitting do ?

just because alot (i know its ALOT but still) of pepole play dn some dont =o rage quitting will lower konami's income but they'd still make loads no matter what =o

how bout we spam there inbox with complaints instead =o?

**Android Force** 2011-06-22, 15:32

Goddess nX wrote:
Red-Eyed King wrote:Believe me, put in the Copyright stuff that say Konami owns Yugioh and we will have DN back. It worked for DMG and will work for DN.

This usually works.

@Ipowers: Only problem is that they start to control everything you do. It ends up becoming YGO online all over again :/

that would be great if it were free. btw what is DMG anyone?

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