Re: Santa's Workshop ~ An Analysis of Wind-Up

**latinum** 2011-11-24, 08:22

this combo becomes more hurting your opponent with multiple copies of galaxy wave. you will not only emptied your opponent hand, but also will reduce their LP to 0, since wind up hunter loop run xyz summon so many, cause inflicting 1000 daamages to opponent LP with multiple galaxy wave.

**gamer14** 2011-11-29, 20:14

Got wind-up to top 8 at my locals. Smile

btw, it seems that dw kills the deck. Any suggestions? (besides zenmaines)

**g4rm818** 2011-11-29, 20:19

once order of chaos comes out, it will be top

**XIVcaliber** 2012-01-12, 13:31

Well, I'm seeing a lot of hype for Wind-Up Shark, and for very good reason. The card will be expensive, and it's once again a testament to how Kevin Tewart hates everyone and insists on breaking archetypes that are otherwise perfectly fine, but it's an amazing card. The fact that it doesn't have the usual Wind-Up stipulation of "once-per-field" means that it breaks Factory. It's bad for the game, blah blah blah, but run 3.

**DarkRiku** 2012-01-12, 14:42

Best way to make the deck balance is do one thing. All you have to do is just limit Wind-Up Zenmaighty to one and the deck is balanced once again and don't have to ban/limit anything else of the archetype.

Anyone agree with me?

**XIVcaliber** 2012-01-12, 16:41

Precisely what needs to happen.

**Ultimate lol** 2012-01-12, 16:57

Funny how an archtype topic is discussing on how it's own archtype should be nerfed XD

**AhhGoodTimes** 2012-01-12, 18:15

Ultimate lol wrote:Funny how an archtype topic is discussing on how it's own archtype should be nerfed XD

lol yeah but it's understandable. It's bittersweet when an archetype one loves becomes broken

Pros
- Your favorite archetype is broken! Yay! Let's beat up the other meta decks and show them who the new boss is! Go (insert favorite archetype here)!

Cons
- Not as fun to use since the wins are so much easier and the deck is more autopilot
- Everyone starts using it
- Higher percent of people rage quitting on sight of your deck
- Higher percent of people calling you a netdecker or uncreative player even though you've been playing the archetype forever before it got super powerful
- Possibility of your archetype getting hit by the Limited/Banned lists

**Prince Vegeta** 2012-01-12, 18:36

AhhGoodTimes wrote:
Ultimate lol wrote:Funny how an archtype topic is discussing on how it's own archtype should be nerfed XD

lol yeah but it's understandable. It's bittersweet when an archetype one loves becomes broken

Pros
- Your favorite archetype is broken! Yay! Let's beat up the other meta decks and show them who the new boss is! Go (insert favorite archetype here)!

Cons
- Not as fun to use since the wins are so much easier and the deck is more autopilot
- Everyone starts using it
- Higher percent of people rage quitting on sight of your deck
- Higher percent of people calling you a netdecker or uncreative player even though you've been playing the archetype forever before it got super powerful
- Possibility of your archetype getting hit by the Limited/Banned lists

DIE HIPSTER DIE!!!!!

**AhhGoodTimes** 2012-01-12, 18:42

@Prince Vegeta

Really mature and informative -_-

But thanks for giving me the video. Makes me so nostalgic. Ahh good times. ^^

**OverlordMMM** 2012-01-12, 21:26

@AhhGoodTimes: You forgot a pro. The opponents start entering the Scoop Phase in tournies.

**Karakuri911** 2012-01-12, 21:35

Now everyone wants Wind-ups. Sad

**XIVcaliber** 2012-01-12, 22:40

Hopefully my guide will be more traffic.

Or less, because I don't like endorsing the Hunter loop.

**Ultimate lol** 2012-01-13, 03:46

I'm going to make wind-ups in real life. But if my deck starts to focus to much on the hunter loop instaid of Xyz spam I'll quit the deck.

**mos795** 2012-02-02, 14:47

And then Wind-Up Shark came out.

**XIVcaliber** 2012-02-17, 20:10

Eh. This archetype used to be unique and cool, but now everyone is complaining about how broken it is, and lemme tell you, it's broken.

My builds won't win tournaments. Don't net-deck me, net-deck someone else if you want to abuse Zenmaity and Shark and Hunter to oblivion.

Peace.

EDIT: Badlist confirmed. Time for Wind-Up format. I don't even need to keep this guide updated anymore.

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