skill drain + malefic + noobs

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emadbz (me): the card says that if there another, you cant summon. skill drain cant negate from hand
shehiko: therefore, skill drain negate their effects, both, require, as attacking
emadbz: no, you dont understand me

If "Skill Drain" is negating the effect "There can only be 1 face-up "Malefic" monster on the field." of a monster like "Malefic Blue-Eyes White Dragon" or "Malefic Red-Eyes B. Dragon" or "Malefic Stardust Dragon", then you still cannot Special Summon a second "Malefic Blue-Eyes White Dragon", since its effect is still active while it is in the hand.
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Malefic_Blue-Eyes_White_Dragon

why stupid as this do not learn the rules instead of only press a.s.s ?
we must denounce these noobs that this does not happen again

Of course you are correct, the Malefic in the hand prevents its own summoning. No matter what the condition, there can only be ONE malefic on the field. People really should be learning the rules behind their cards before they start playing. As an admin on DN, I can't tell you how many times I've run into really stupid situations.

actually, you can have up to 2 with skill drain *points to paradox*

To approach the situation from a different angle...

The ruling is stated that way... However, I do believe that the:

There can only be 1 face-up "Malefic" monster on the field.

part is not an "effect" but a "condition". Since Skill Drain can't negate conditions, that's what prevents the second one from being summoned.

Effects are never active when the card is in the hand -- there might be exceptions that I can't recall at the moment -- unless stated so; Wildheart being immune to traps but vulnerable to Crush Card Virus while in hand is an example.

Grandmaster of the Six Samurai and the Earthbounds had a similar case. They were explained to be this way, the same conceived logic resorting to the 2nd card's effect in hand. Grandmaster had no firm ruling on that I guess, though.

I don't know if the staff that deals with this had to make this up randomly to save the day and decided to cling to it... As a general rule, card effects are not active so long as they are in one's hand is what we know.

You can look it up on the card's link here:

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Malefic_Blue-Eyes_White_Dragon

Card Effect Type(s): Summon, Condition, Continuous

If not convinced, you can check Grandmaster and Earthbounds, too. I know it is open for free edits, yet it makes sense... Way more than the other fictitious exposition.

The reason I seem to be extending this pleonastically is because I want to get your opinions on the matter in order to elucidate this context. Konami was always weak in defining the term "condition"...

Otherwise, rulings are rulings.

Simplerer explaination I believe is

Skill drain does not negate monster skill on hand / graveyard

There can only be 1 face-up "Malefic" monster on the field.

Is an effect.

Malefic monsters have no condition to stay on the field, the only condition they have is their Summoning Condition, the other parts are effects. And all the effects of Malefic monsters are continuous effects, so they apply, not active.

yup even if skill drain on field you can only have 1 malefic on field.
that person didnt needa a.s.s he just needed to learn his rules

I even played against a dude once that said monster effects in hand aren't active and therefore he can have more. He even said that a official judge said to him that he can have more Malefics while Skill Drain is active. I tried explaining but he didn't listen....

Back to the topic, you can always have only one Malefic, unless Konami makes a Malefic supports that changes the fact.

i think if skill drain is in the field you can have more than 1 malefic since i isaw this deck in a regional

Even though the Malefic monster on the Field is negated, the one in your hand still "knows" that there is a Malefic on the Field, so you can't summon it.

What Emolga said is correct. Here is why:

If "Skill Drain" is negating the effect "There can only be 1 face-up "Malefic" monster on the field." of a monster like "Malefic Blue-Eyes White Dragon" or "Malefic Red-Eyes B. Dragon" or "Malefic Stardust Dragon", then you still cannot Special Summon a second "Malefic Blue-Eyes White Dragon", since its effect is still active while it is in the hand.[4]

It's as easy as Xyz checking this link:

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Malefic