37... 38... 39... 40!: A Guide To Mill Decks

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-22, 14:15

Foolish Burial. Charge Of The Light Brigade. Future Fusion. Most of the time, seeing your opponent using these cards can ruin your day. Not me: it makes me smile. Milling has been a strange concept for the last few formats. It used to be pretty bad, milling your deck out. But then along came these guys...

These Guys:

Everything changed. The game became more Graveyard oriented. Plaguespreader Zombie, Grow-Up Bulb, Spore, the return of the Chaos cards; what lies dead is often more frightening than what lives, today. So, you are probably wondering something to the effect of: "Why would you desire to set them up for a JD or Trish?" Simple. It is hilarious and a tad devilish to win like this. Think about it: the people desire to mill, so, why not give the people what they desire until it kills them? Now, obviously, this is a very dangerous game, mill decks, but with the right cards, some serious skill, and a bit of luck, you can make a deck that is equally as ragequit-causing as Dark Worlds or Lightsworn. Let us commence this fun, shall we?

The Monsters:

The Spells:

The Traps:

Variants:

**Red_Chaos** 2011-10-22, 14:18

im guessing this is a going to be longer?

good so far

**Metta World Peace** 2011-10-22, 14:47

y u post incomplete guide

i'll be looking forward to this xD

**Tcbskater** 2011-10-22, 15:03

Cannot wait for the rest of this. Looking good so far.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-22, 15:06

Alrighty, I posted the monsters. Sorry about the post of one, my computer was suffering from Nyan Cat Overload.

**Tcbskater** 2011-10-22, 15:16

Can we get a name on the non-english Synchro?

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-22, 15:20

Tcbskater wrote:Can we get a name on the non-english Synchro?

Whoops! Sorry! Dark Diviner.

**Tcbskater** 2011-10-22, 15:55

In terms of Tuners, I think Debris Dragon could use a mention. Grab one of the many level 2's (Needle Worm, Hiro's Shadow Scout) for an easy Iron Chain Dragon.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-22, 15:57

Tcbskater wrote:In terms of Tuners, I think Debris Dragon could use a mention. Grab one of the many level 2's (Needle Worm, Hiro's Shadow Scout) for an easy Iron Chain Dragon.

Actually, he can only grab Spear Cretin...

**Tcbskater** 2011-10-22, 16:11

Potus-Mat wrote:
Tcbskater wrote:In terms of Tuners, I think Debris Dragon could use a mention. Grab one of the many level 2's (Needle Worm, Hiro's Shadow Scout) for an easy Iron Chain Dragon.
Actually, he can only grab Spear Cretin...

Doh. Forgot about the 500 att restriction.

**Master McTucket** 2011-10-22, 17:27

Mill Decks have always been "The Underdog Deck" because when this deck released, many people laughed at the idea because it was slow.. However, nowadays, it's an interesting deck to build because you can add a lot of flavour to it... Cool Article, it would have been cool to see some Mill deck lists though

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-22, 17:48

Master McTucket wrote:Mill Decks have always been "The Underdog Deck" because when this deck released, many people laughed at the idea because it was slow.. However, nowadays, it's an interesting deck to build because you can add a lot of flavour to it... Cool Article, it would have been cool to see some Mill deck lists though

I am only 25% done with this article. I still have to post the Spells, Traps, and decklists. And maybe some spoilers so people can get through it without having to set up basecamp.

**Red_Chaos** 2011-10-22, 18:02

ah nice to see this article starting to build up nicely keep it up

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-23, 15:17

Alrighty, the Spells are up! Next up: Traps, decklists, and spoilers!

**Prince Vegeta** 2011-10-23, 15:29

bravo potus +1 rep 4 u i like this but don't hate on my Lightsworns Q_Q
anyways good guide i respect empty jar more now

**Red_Chaos** 2011-10-24, 16:48

hey potus that last card for magic....i can't read Japanese

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-24, 17:36

Red_Chaos wrote:hey potus that last card for magic....i can't read Japanese

It is Momentary Truce, Red. Both players draw one, and neither player takes damage until your next turn.

**DarkRiku** 2011-10-25, 01:11

Potus-Mat wrote:
Red_Chaos wrote:hey potus that last card for magic....i can't read Japanese
It is Momentary Truce, Red. Both players draw one, and neither player takes damage until your next turn.

Best..Card..Ever.. for decks that don't win from battles or burn.

**OverlordMMM** 2011-10-26, 02:46

You forgot a nice bug. Shield Worm. 2000 DEF and mills 1 for each insect on your side of the field. While you have 2 other insects on the field, Inferno Reckless Summon to make them mill 15 in one shot. You can use Book of Eclipse to help re-use their effects individually and make the opponent draw 3-5 (if IRS is used).

Its difficult to really re-use them, though, but worth it in the right build.

**Zephyr** 2011-10-27, 14:36

Nice article, haven't really made any mill decks except for a zombie mill deck that abuses Bone-Tower, Pyramid turtle and those books that revive zombies (no idea what they're called... book of...something? lol) pretty standard i guess but it was a nice deck and what's weird is that milling originally was like a secondary way of victory but it became the primary way of winning most of the time gotta love those Bone-Towers.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-28, 00:51

Updated. Traps added.

**Red_Chaos** 2011-10-28, 01:01

can't wait to see the finished product keep up my man

**DHDaegor** 2011-10-29, 12:15

No Cup of Ace?

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-29, 12:51

DHDaegor wrote:No Cup of Ace?

Because it is either a:
- 3 (In which case, IT IS A -3)
- OR -
+ 1 (In which case, you are milling yourself as much as this card appeals to milling your opponent)
Either way, not that good of a mill card.

**WrightJustice** 2011-10-29, 14:44

Do you mind giving us the names of the Japanese cards?

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-29, 15:47

WrightJustice wrote:Do you mind giving us the names of the Japanese cards?

Right. I noticed that people keep asking me for this, so I just write the in the little blurb beneath each card.

**Red_Chaos** 2011-10-29, 15:50

potus could you put a spoiler on that first pick for some reason it messes up my computer D:

**Potus-Mat** 2011-10-29, 15:54

Red_Chaos wrote:potus could you put a spoiler on that first pick for some reason it messes up my computer D:

Yeah, Lightsworns ruin EVERYTHING. Alright, it is done.

**Red_Chaos** 2011-10-29, 15:56

Potus-Mat wrote:
Red_Chaos wrote:potus could you put a spoiler on that first pick for some reason it messes up my computer D:
Yeah, Lightsworns ruin EVERYTHING. Alright, it is done.

thank you for accommodating for me Very Happy

**Potus-Mat** 2011-11-03, 20:33

Updated with a fancy new name.

**Lovelace** 2011-11-03, 20:55

Mm, this guide doesn't really seem to be teaching us how to play a deck. It seems to simply list a bunch of cards with mill effects, and plenty of those cards won't even fit in the same deck imo. You don't even say how many of each card we should run. And in the decks section, you tell us to go make our own instead of atleast giving us a skeleton to work with....

**Potus-Mat** 2011-11-03, 21:04

N Harmonia wrote:Mm, this guide doesn't really seem to be teaching us how to play a deck. It seems to simply list a bunch of cards with mill effects, and plenty of those cards won't even fit in the same deck imo. You don't even say how many of each card we should run. And in the decks section, you tell us to go make our own instead of atleast giving us a skeleton to work with....

Fine...
But it is no fun if I just give decklists...

**Lovelace** 2011-11-03, 21:06

Potus-Mat wrote:
N Harmonia wrote:Mm, this guide doesn't really seem to be teaching us how to play a deck. It seems to simply list a bunch of cards with mill effects, and plenty of those cards won't even fit in the same deck imo. You don't even say how many of each card we should run. And in the decks section, you tell us to go make our own instead of atleast giving us a skeleton to work with....
Fine...
But it is no fun if I just give decklists...

Just give us a skeleton then.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-11-03, 21:28

N Harmonia wrote:
Potus-Mat wrote:
N Harmonia wrote:Mm, this guide doesn't really seem to be teaching us how to play a deck. It seems to simply list a bunch of cards with mill effects, and plenty of those cards won't even fit in the same deck imo. You don't even say how many of each card we should run. And in the decks section, you tell us to go make our own instead of atleast giving us a skeleton to work with....
Fine...
But it is no fun if I just give decklists...
Just give us a skeleton then.

Done. Kinda. I gave a list of the variants, described the strategies and some of the main cards each variant uses, and called it a day.

**Red_Chaos** 2011-11-04, 01:15

so no decklist?

**OverlordMMM** 2011-11-04, 13:06

Any decklists made would either be too generic or too specific to be helpful.

Unfortunately, thats one of the issues with mill decks, either they work or they don't. Very little in-between unlike other deck types.

If you want some lists, I can make some, though, from my experience.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-11-04, 15:53

OverlordMMM wrote:Any decklists made would either be too generic or too specific to be helpful.
Unfortunately, thats one of the issues with mill decks, either they work or they don't. Very little in-between unlike other deck types.
If you want some lists, I can make some, though, from my experience.

I have been running mill decks for ten years; they are my specialty.

**Dimes** 2011-11-04, 18:32

Gift of Greed is a nice card to use. Even though it does add to the hand rather than to the graveyard, I find that the +2 can make a difference. Dark World Dealings and Card Destruction work nicely too and Magical Mallet can help rid you of problematic dead hands.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-11-04, 19:07

Dimes wrote:Gift of Greed is a nice card to use. Even though it does add to the hand rather than to the graveyard, I find that the +2 can make a difference. Dark World Dealings and Card Destruction work nicely too and Magical Mallet can help rid you of problematic dead hands.

GOG just gives me a -1, not really that great, except for maybe in Greed burn decks. Dealings is also a -1, and does not mill enough to be worth it. Destruction is pretty good in these decks, but Dark Worlds will...
Mallet is just not good in most decks.

**Pkmn337** 2011-11-13, 21:33

A nice article, got me inspired into making one, specially giving a use to those lil insects, I even found myself using Maxx "C", a card I used to avoid.

Lightsworns can give a pesky time, at least there's good ol' trusty light-imprisioning mirror to side.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-11-13, 21:36

Pkmn337 wrote:A nice article, got me inspired into making one, specially giving a use to those lil insects, I even found myself using Maxx "C", a card I used to avoid.
Lightsworns can give a pesky time, at least there's good ol' trusty light-imprisioning mirror to side.

Thanks. But I find that Light Of Destruction, while dangerous, is a much more hilarious side.

**Arkadio** 2011-11-29, 09:57

if you have a messy hand and your objective is to discard anyways i recommend Into the Void.
Draw 1, at the end of the turn, discard all.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-11-29, 16:01

Arkadio wrote:if you have a messy hand and your objective is to discard anyways i recommend Into the Void.
Draw 1, at the end of the turn, discard all.

Meh. It depends on the build. In anti-meta mill, most of the hand is set. In Zombie mill, monsters in hand is an asset, and so on.

**Karakuri911** 2011-11-29, 17:30

No Zenmaister? He works wonders for the deck. ^^;

**Potus-Mat** 2011-11-29, 18:39

Karakuri911 wrote:No Zenmaister? He works wonders for the deck. ^^;

Level Four monsters do not have Milling Flip effects. Pretty hard to use them together.

**Karakuri911** 2011-11-29, 18:57

Potus-Mat wrote:
Karakuri911 wrote:No Zenmaister? He works wonders for the deck. ^^;
Level Four monsters do not have Milling Flip effects. Pretty hard to use them together.

Well I use Des Feral Imp, so its easy for my build.

**Potus-Mat** 2011-11-29, 19:03

Karakuri911 wrote:
Potus-Mat wrote:
Karakuri911 wrote:No Zenmaister? He works wonders for the deck. ^^;
Level Four monsters do not have Milling Flip effects. Pretty hard to use them together.
Well I use Des Feral Imp, so its easy for my build.

Not my first choice, but I suppose its high DEF and and effect do merit a use.

**stevessj4** 2011-12-07, 10:42

A deck with lvl 3 and lower monsters based on cards like gravity bind limit area b etc and effs that piercing damage your opponents LP mixed with soul releases d.d. dynamite, macrocosmos soul absorption... can built not only a very powerfull deck that not anly kills the graveyards but also protect your monsters from attacks and pikeru magician gren maju garzett banisher of the lightgravekeeper servant stealth bird robbin gobblin will also kill you opp LP and hand also get your LP to numbers impossible to believe

**Potus-Mat** 2011-12-07, 19:04

But Burn ≠ Mill.

**Pkmn337** 2011-12-11, 12:27

I like using Card Destruction with serial spell too, it can be brutal.

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