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Post  kangtuji 2011-11-01, 18:14

If an opp BRD nuke field or use his own Heavy Storm, along with opp Geartown / Karakuri Castle

Will it miss the timing ?
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Post  ASOBITAI 2011-11-01, 18:37

Why do you think it will miss the timing?

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Post  kangtuji 2011-11-01, 18:42

Why ?
Because I don't want opp summon 2800 syncro / 3000 beater after he nuke field ?


Well.. that one of it, but mainly because last thing happen was BRD nuke ?
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Post  Vincent 2011-11-01, 19:01

Nope. Or at least, I could not see why. Last thing to happen is them being destroyed, soooo...

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Post  Key 2011-11-01, 23:18

If their effect is activated at Chain link 1, Geartown will not miss the timing
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Post  Magicknight94 2011-11-02, 00:31

kangtuji wrote:
Well.. that one of it, but mainly because last thing happen was BRD nuke ?
Nuke is not destroy?
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Post  kangtuji 2011-11-02, 03:40

did you miss part "last thing happen" ? that the question, not nuke / destroying part
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Post  Miror B. 2011-11-02, 03:43

Last thing to happen is the nuke, or in other words everything being destroyed simultaneously. Unless you had something like Dandy Tokens as Chain Link 1, nothing misses timing.
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Post  Ultimate lol 2011-11-02, 04:01

Player nukes, nuke resolves and destroys field.
Field being destroyed is the First, only and last thing to happen.
Monster is summoned.
Can't see a problem here...
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Post  kangtuji 2011-11-02, 04:04

So last thing to happen is nuke field, not monster summon ?

That mean it will miss the timing for card with optional effect. Dandylion is mandatory, cann't miss the timing
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Post  Magicknight94 2011-11-02, 04:10

Ok, let's built the chain:


  • Summon BRD

  • Active its effect as chain link 1.

  • Resolve its effect, nuke the field and destroy GT.

  • GT active its effect as chain link 1.

  • Resolve GT's effect, summon a Ancient Gear monster.
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Post  Ultimate lol 2011-11-02, 04:22

Magicknight94 wrote:Ok, let's built the chain:


  • Summon BRD

  • Active its effect as chain link 1.

  • Resolve its effect, nuke the field and destroy GT.

  • GT active its effect as chain link 1.

  • Resolve GT's effect, summon a Ancient Gear monster.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Geartown does not even start a new chain. It just resolves.
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Post  Magicknight94 2011-11-02, 04:25

It is an effect that start a chain and can be negated by Unicore/Royal Oppression/etc.
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Post  Miror B. 2011-11-02, 05:01

Ultimate lol wrote:
Magicknight94 wrote:Ok, let's built the chain:


  • Summon BRD

  • Active its effect as chain link 1.

  • Resolve its effect, nuke the field and destroy GT.

  • GT active its effect as chain link 1.

  • Resolve GT's effect, summon a Ancient Gear monster.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Geartown does not even start a new chain. It just resolves.
Geartown's effect activates when it's destroyed, so it starts a new chain. Just like if you used Gates of the Dark World's effect, you're still starting a new chain.

@TC: BRD summons itself, then it activates it's effect and destroys everything. Then the next chain opportunity would arise, Geartown or similar were just destroyed so you get the option of activating those effects (in a chain if needed).

Dandylion activates when it is sent to the Graveyard, which just happened to be before BRD was summoned. It activates at the same timing as BRD's Summon. Same with Doppelwarrior used for a Synchro. Had nothing to do with a whole missed timing thing.

I only mentioned it because if you used Dandylion for the Synchro, the Dandy Tokens would be Chain Link 1, then BRD nuke Chain Link 2. Resolving, BRD would nuke, then Dandy Tokens would Summon. Now the new opportunity for a chain would arise, but Geartown cannot activate because the last thing to happen was the summoning of the Dandy Tokens, not the destruction of said Geartown.

Hopefully this is a decen answer.
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Post  BlackwingRa 2011-11-02, 05:07

Even nuke field when Dandy's on the field when nuke, Geartown won't miss the timing.
Here's the chain:
Summon BRD.
Activates BRD effect as Chain Link 1.
Effect resolved, destroys GT and Dandy.
Dandy's mandatory effect start a new Chain as Chain Link 1.
GT effect activates as Chain Link 2.
GT Special Summon an Ancient Gear monster first.
Dandy Special Summon 2 tokens.
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Post  Phoenix Wright 2011-11-02, 06:39

No, unless another effect happens between them

like:

Black rose>Geartown would work

Black Rose>Dandylion>Geartown would miss the timing


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Post  Zero2Hero 2011-11-02, 12:04

Black Rose Dragon is the same thing as Demise nuking the field.
Geartown will not miss the timing.
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Post  Miror B. 2011-11-02, 12:33

BlackwingRa wrote:Even nuke field when Dandy's on the field when nuke, Geartown won't miss the timing.
Here's the chain:
Summon BRD.
Activates BRD effect as Chain Link 1.
Effect resolved, destroys GT and Dandy.
Dandy's mandatory effect start a new Chain as Chain Link 1.
GT effect activates as Chain Link 2.
GT Special Summon an Ancient Gear monster first.
Dandy Special Summon 2 tokens.
Yea, though I was talking if Dandylion was used in the Synchro Summon for BRD. Not sure if you were reffering to me through that or not so sorry for any confusion.
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Post  Hunter_13 2011-11-02, 14:01

thats the reason why the demise town deck exist, it not exist only cuz some random guy wanted to created a deck with no sense destruction.. but to abuse the effect of geartown while destroying everything...
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