Skill Drain vs. summoning a Monster

Hey there.

So the other day i was playing my super duper ojama deck and got confused with my opponent playing skill drain.

i summoned Ojama Red (when normal summoned, turnplayer can summon up to 4 ojama monsters from his hand). i wanted to use the effect but my opponent played skill drain.

i was pretty sure, that skill drain wouldn t negate the effect, since he cannot start a chain to my summon. thus the effect of ojama red would activate.

right guys?

in general: can you activate skill drain on a summon (normal oder special)? to negate its effect?

thx!

Thrillhouse wrote:Hey there.

So the other day i was playing my super duper ojama deck and got confused with my opponent playing skill drain.

i summoned Ojama Red (when normal summoned, turnplayer can summon up to 4 ojama monsters from his hand). i wanted to use the effect but my opponent played skill drain.

i was pretty sure, that skill drain wouldn t negate the effect, since he cannot start a chain to my summon. thus the effect of ojama red would activate.

right guys?

in general: can you activate skill drain on a summon (normal oder special)? to negate its effect?

thx!

You can chain to the effect of Ojama Red, why wouldn't you be able to?
You are right though in saying that you can't chain to a summon, since summons don't have spell speeds.

Thrillhouse wrote:Hey there.

So the other day i was playing my super duper ojama deck and got confused with my opponent playing skill drain.

i summoned Ojama Red (when normal summoned, turnplayer can summon up to 4 ojama monsters from his hand). i wanted to use the effect but my opponent played skill drain.

i was pretty sure, that skill drain wouldn t negate the effect, since he cannot start a chain to my summon. thus the effect of ojama red would activate.

right guys?

in general: can you activate skill drain on a summon (normal oder special)? to negate its effect?

thx!

Ojama Red's effect is a trigger effect, which does start a chain.

As for chaining to a summon, they cannot, but they can respond to the summon resolution by activating Skill Drain.

Dragonknight1991 wrote:

Thrillhouse wrote:Hey there.

So the other day i was playing my super duper ojama deck and got confused with my opponent playing skill drain.

i summoned Ojama Red (when normal summoned, turnplayer can summon up to 4 ojama monsters from his hand). i wanted to use the effect but my opponent played skill drain.

i was pretty sure, that skill drain wouldn t negate the effect, since he cannot start a chain to my summon. thus the effect of ojama red would activate.

right guys?

in general: can you activate skill drain on a summon (normal oder special)? to negate its effect?

thx!

You can chain to the effect of Ojama Red, why wouldn't you be able to?

that means you can chain skill drain to the activation of an effect (monster)? don t judge me pls, i m trying to get this^^
let s say i summon zaborg thunder monarch and wanna destry his monster, does that mean he can chain skill drain and negate zaborg s effect before it resolves? i always thought, you would have to have skill drain active on the field to negate effects and cannot chain it

:X

Thrillhouse wrote:

Dragonknight1991 wrote:

Thrillhouse wrote:Hey there.

So the other day i was playing my super duper ojama deck and got confused with my opponent playing skill drain.

i summoned Ojama Red (when normal summoned, turnplayer can summon up to 4 ojama monsters from his hand). i wanted to use the effect but my opponent played skill drain.

i was pretty sure, that skill drain wouldn t negate the effect, since he cannot start a chain to my summon. thus the effect of ojama red would activate.

right guys?

in general: can you activate skill drain on a summon (normal oder special)? to negate its effect?

thx!

You can chain to the effect of Ojama Red, why wouldn't you be able to?

that means you can chain skill drain to the activation of an effect (monster)? don t judge me pls, i m trying to get this^^
let s say i summon zaborg thunder monarch and wanna destry his monster, does that mean he can chain skill drain and negate zaborg s effect before it resolves? i always thought, you would have to have skill drain active on the field to negate effects and cannot chain it

:X

They both go on a chain, Zaborg 1, Drain 2, And chains work backwards.
Drain will resolve first, meaning its effect goes into play immediately, since its a continuous effect, and then Zaborg resolves, and fizzles since Drain is face up and active.

They can't chain Skill Drain to a summon as they have no speed spell, but Skill Drain can be activated in response to the succesful summon of Ojama Red.

Skill Drain can be chained to Ojama Red since the latter creates a chain. The chain link will be :

Chain Link 1 : Ojama Red's effect
Chain Link 2 : Skill Drain's activation

Since chains resolve backwards, Skill Drain will be activated before Red's effect can resolve correctly and will negate it then.

kk got it.

thank yall for the quick help!

close pls

Note, there are some effects gained "immediately" upon successful normal summon that activating veiler/skill drain in response to will have no effect upon.

Dodger dragon is the rule, and Verz Castor and Sacred Pollux are further examples. If skill drain is flipped after the monster is summoned, their effects are still applied. If drain was up beforehand however, then their effects aren't applied. These cases are exceptionally rare, but they exist.

Joenen wrote:Note, there are some effects gained "immediately" upon successful normal summon that activating veiler/skill drain in response to will have no effect upon.

Dodger dragon is the rule, and Verz Castor and Sacred Pollux are further examples. If skill drain is flipped after the monster is summoned, their effects are still applied. If drain was up beforehand however, then their effects aren't applied. These cases are exceptionally rare, but they exist.

So even if you veiler verz castor, you still get the normal summon?

You forgotting classic monster like Jinzo and E.Hero wildheart

gruntlord6 wrote:So even if you veiler verz castor, you still get the normal summon?

OCG ruling says you can.
once verz castor applied, it put condition that allow you to perform the additional normal summon.