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Clear world's effect on water and fire monsters

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Post  Martilo 2011-07-15, 07:31

Clear World's effect if a player control a water or fire monster happens during the end phase.

So I wonder, what if that water/fire monster is a spirit monster? Does the effect of clear world happen first or will the spirit monster return to the hand first?
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Post  Chiaki 2011-07-15, 08:43

This depends on who is controlling what.

Effects Chain and Resolve like this:

Link 1: Turn Player's Mandatory Effects
Link 2: Opponent's Mandatory Effects
Link 3: Turn Player's Optional Effects
Link 4: Opponent's Optional Effects

If the Player controls two things that happen at the same time, they get to choose which resolves first.
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Post  KaousFaustXIII 2011-07-15, 09:33

applying what Chiaki said:

You control a Spirit Monster, ex. Fushi no Tori while Clear World is face-up on the field. During the End Phase, Fushi No Tori and Clear World's (FIRE) effects activate and go on a chain. You gets to choose which effect you would like to place on chain link 1 and 2, but it doesnt really matter because:

Chain Link 1: Fushi no Tori
Chain Link 2: Clear World

chain resolves Fushi no Tori returns to your hand, you take 1000 damage from clear world

Chain Link 1: Clear World
Chain Link 2: Fushi no Tori

chain resolves you take 1000 damage from clear world, Fushi no Tori returns to your hand

in short Clear World only needs the face-up WATER or FIRE Monster during activation (of its corresponding effect) not on resolution.
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Post  TKGriffiths 2011-07-15, 11:06

I don't think they go on a chain, 'during the end phase' you can have more than one chain.

They only go on a chain when they're trigger effects with a specific window, Dark Hole on 2 Sangans for example.
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Post  KaousFaustXIII 2011-07-15, 11:09

TKGriffiths wrote:I don't think they go on a chain, 'during the end phase' you can have more than one chain.

They only go on a chain when they're trigger effects with a specific window, Dark Hole on 2 Sangans for example.

The Spirit Monsters' effect that returns them to the hand, and Clear World's FIRE/WATER effects are both trigger effects that activate on the same window "During the End Phase". They activate simultaneously the moment you enter the End Phase.
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Post  Key 2011-07-15, 18:49

Ehhh, no.
They do not go on a chain, much like Lightsworn monsters.

The turn-player has priority to decide whether to return Spirit monsters to the hand or pass priority to opponent.

If the Turn-player passes priority to opponent, opponent can decide to pass priority back to the turn-player or apply the effect of Clear World
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Post  KaousFaustXIII 2011-07-15, 19:03

Key wrote:The turn-player has priority to decide whether to return Spirit monsters to the hand or pass priority to opponent.

If the Turn-player passes priority to opponent, opponent can decide to pass priority back to the turn-player or apply the effect of Clear World

My bad, ignore everything i said. Tested on PSP effects of two Spirit Monsters don't go on chain.
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Post  Martilo 2011-07-20, 13:50

So let's see if I got it right. So if I control both clear world and a Fushi no Tori, I can select if I want to return my Fushi to my hand before I take 1000 damage? (because both effects are mine and they are mandatory)
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Post  Pharaoh Atem 2011-07-20, 15:04

Correct.
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