Trap Stun question

Question... well I searched but found nothing... sorry if it's been answered already ._.


If an opponent activates a trap, can I use Trap stun in a chain to cancel it?

Yep. That is the main use of Trap Stun.

Yes you can. But if a trap is chained to it, that trap will work.

vantagesp wrote:Yes you can. But if a trap is chained to it, that trap will work.

Unless that trap has a lingering effect, such as Waboku.

Potus-Mat wrote:

vantagesp wrote:Yes you can. But if a trap is chained to it, that trap will work.

Unless that trap has a lingering effect, such as Waboku.

This is true. So many technicalities in this game xd.

Potus-Mat wrote:Yep. That is the main use of Trap Stun.

Okay, cause I was fighting someone who said I couldn't cause Trap Stun to negate his torrential Tribute, because he had priority on speed because he activated his trap first and Trap stun was too slow or something of the sort ._.

I let him do it, but I wanted to confirm for future reference...

LuzCeleste wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:Yep. That is the main use of Trap Stun.

Okay, cause I was fighting someone who said I couldn't cause Trap Stun to negate his torrential Tribute, because he had priority on speed because he activated his trap first and Trap stun was too slow or something of the sort ._.

Yeah, priority has nothing to do with it. It's activations and resolutions. You always resolve the last card in the chain first.

Chain Link 1: Torrential Tribute is activate.
Chain Link 2: Trap Stun is activated.
Resolving with the last activated card...
Chain Link 2: Trap Stuns effect goes into effect.
Chain Link 1: Torrential would destroy all monsters, but Trap Stun's effect is lingering, so Torrential gets negated by the lingering effect.

Works that way with everything. Only time "Speed" is a factor is with spell speeds.

Potus-Mat wrote:

vantagesp wrote:Yes you can. But if a trap is chained to it, that trap will work.

Unless that trap has a lingering effect, such as Waboku.

where did you find that? i checked the card rulings and i couldnt find the one stating waboku being negated even if it resolves before trap stun does

raidou wrote:

Potus-Mat wrote:

vantagesp wrote:Yes you can. But if a trap is chained to it, that trap will work.

Unless that trap has a lingering effect, such as Waboku.

where did you find that? i checked the card rulings and i couldnt find the one stating waboku being negated even if it resolves before trap stun does

I don't think it's an actual ruling rather than common sense ... Since trap stun says cancels the effects of all other trap cards this turn ... And if wabuku was activated ... The effect of wabuku lingers in the field but since trap stun is canceling the effect and not the card even if wabuku already activated the effect is canceled.

never heard of that ruling i even checked decree ones


doesnt make sense waboku already resolved by the time trap stun does





assuming the ruling is true does it mean i have to chain mst for the lingering effect to resolve ?(it would destroy waboku before trap stun resolves so it wont be on the field)

raidou wrote:never heard of that ruling i even checked decree ones


doesnt make sense waboku already resolved by the time trap stun does





assuming the ruling is true does it mean i have to chain mst for the lingering effect to resolve ?(it would destroy waboku before trap stun resolves so it wont be on the field)

I'm sorry if you didn't understand what i was saying I'll try to make it clearer. What I'm saying is that trap stun works as such that it "negate the effects" Soooo since the effect and the card aren't the same thing it would be like ... Wabuku for example I activate it, and then wabuku resolves... So the effect goes through... No chain is activated to wabuku, but later that turn trap stun is activated, it would still wipe out wabuku, because the "take 0 damage" this turn or what ever the wording on wabuku is, is still the effect of a trap that is lingering on the field ... so trap stun would still cancel the effect even though wabuku resolved a while ago.... At least that's what I got from the explanations up there, correct me if I'm wrong.

Waboku's effect will go through.

i think vantage and potus are confusing a lingering effect to conditions placed when you use an effect


like truth reinforce if you use the trap and trap stun is chained to it

truth reinforce will be negated but the 'cant conduct battle phase' part still applies

same as chaos sorcerer cant att if veiler negates its effect or LaDD negating PoD


if the effect of the card was negated but not the activation of the effect any conditions placed on you still apply

waboku is all effect trap stun cant negate waboku unless it resolves first

Trap stun won't negate "Lingering" effects of trap cards nor it can negate conditions placed or costs that are to be payed. Anything that resolves before Trap Stun weather it is in the same chain Trap Stun was activated or not, will not be negated.

So if you chain Waboku to Trap Stun it will still work...

If your opponent activates "Waboku" during your Standby Phase and you Summon "Jinzo" in your Main Phase, the effect of "Waboku" is still applied because it resolved before "Jinzo" was Summoned.

And then you have this...

To make it simple, Trap Stun is Skill Drain for Traps, so lingering effect cannot be negated by Trap Stun, because the Trap Card isn't face up on the field.