Malefic Ruling

Lets say I have a Malefic Rainbow Dragon on the field. Would it be possible for my opponent to special summon another Malefic monster (Malefic Stardust) to their side of the field even though the condition says "There can only be 1 face-up "Malefic" monster on the field."

And if so, would my Malefic Rainbow Dragon be destroyed when he summons Malefic Stardust Dragon because of the condition "There can only be 1 face-up "Malefic" monster on the field."

1)he cant because the "There can only be 1 face-up "Malefic" monster on the field." is a condition and not an effect.And because of that there only can be 1 face up malefic monster

I thought so. Cheaters smh. Thanks though

Actually, that ia an effect and can be negated. Like if I have 2 face-down Malefic and my opp use Swords of Revealing Light and Skill Drain, both monsters will stay on the field.

Magicknight94 wrote:Actually, that ia an effect and can be negated. Like if I have 2 face-down Malefic and my opp use Swords of Revealing Light and Skill Drain, both monsters will stay on the field.

WRONG that is a condition i said it before and skill drain dosent negates conditions effects

Broken_Soul wrote:
WRONG that is a condition i said it before and skill drain dosent negates conditions effects

Its ruling said that it is an effect and can be negated by Skill Drain. The reason you cannot summon the 2nd Malefic is the effect of 2nd Malefic on hand still apply.

If "Skill Drain" is negating the effect "There can only be 1 face-up "Malefic" monster on the field." of a monster like "Malefic Blue-Eyes White Dragon" or "Malefic Red-Eyes B. Dragon" or "Malefic Stardust Dragon", then you still cannot Special Summon a second "Malefic Blue-Eyes White Dragon", since its effect is still active while it is in the hand.[7]

There are two main types of Conditions. There are ones that are not considered to be an effect and cannot be negated by cards like "Skill Drain"; the ones that are considered to be an effect, can be negated by cards like "Skill Drain"


"Only 1 on field restrictions" (There can only be 1 face-up ___ on the field) However, note if "Skill Drain" is negating the effect of a face-up "Malefic Truth Dragon" on the field, you still cannot Summon another "Malefic" monster, since its effect is still active while it is in the hand.

"Only 1 per side restrictions" (You can only control 1 ___) Similar to the above restriction, you cannot Summon another copy if "Skill Drain" is negating the one on the field.

Thats clear enough

Broken_Soul wrote:There are two main types of Conditions. There are ones that are not considered to be an effect and cannot be negated by cards like "Skill Drain"; the ones that are considered to be an effect, can be negated by cards like "Skill Drain"


"Only 1 on field restrictions" (There can only be 1 face-up ___ on the field) However, note if "Skill Drain" is negating the effect of a face-up "Malefic Truth Dragon" on the field, you still cannot Summon another "Malefic" monster, since its effect is still active while it is in the hand.

"Only 1 per side restrictions" (You can only control 1 ___) Similar to the above restriction, you cannot Summon another copy if "Skill Drain" is negating the one on the field.

Thats clear enough

so even with skill drain i can only summon one malefic at a time?

That why I said if I have 2 face-down Malefic and my opp use Swords of Revealing Light and Skill Drain, both monsters will stay on the field, since both monster's effect is negated.

you still need to destroy 1 because is not an eff is a condition eff

PD:500 posts yeah baby

That is an effect, that why it can be negated by Skill Drain.

Simply thinks
SKILL DRAIN does not negate effect on HAND or GRAVE

so effect in hand still active

Broken_Soul wrote:There are two main types of Conditions. There are ones that are not considered to be an effect and cannot be negated by cards like "Skill Drain"; the ones that are considered to be an effect, can be negated by cards like "Skill Drain"


"Only 1 on field restrictions" (There can only be 1 face-up ___ on the field) However, note if "Skill Drain" is negating the effect of a face-up "Malefic Truth Dragon" on the field, you still cannot Summon another "Malefic" monster, since its effect is still active while it is in the hand.

"Only 1 per side restrictions" (You can only control 1 ___) Similar to the above restriction, you cannot Summon another copy if "Skill Drain" is negating the one on the field.

Thats clear enough

Skill Drain will negate the condition effect of only being able to have one face-up Malefic on the field. It doesn't stop it in the hand, and that's why you cannot summon another one.

If you flip one face down, summon a Malefic, and if the face-down one gets flipped back up, they both stay, as long as something is negating their effects, such as Skill Drain.

What I wonder is, what happens if you have two Malefics on the field, then have a third one in your hand, and whether or not the condition in the hand would cause one to be destroyed.

Broken_Soul wrote:you still need to destroy 1 because is not an eff is a condition eff

PD:500 posts yeah baby

You cannot summon the 2nd Malefic because the 2nd Malefic's effect, not the 1st Malefic condition.

Let's just confirm this and be done with it.

Malefic text specifying that only 1 can be on the field is an EFFECT and can be negated by Skill Drain.

There is absolutely NOTHING in Malefic monster's card text is condition,except for he summon part, all of them are effects. So Skill Drain can negate and will negates. (of course not in hand or grave or banish zone).

emm guys so if 1 malefic its face down the same player can summon another malefic? and what if the face down malefic flips up by an effect or by battle?

liske wrote:emm guys so if 1 malefic its face down the same player can summon another malefic? and what if the face down malefic flips up by an effect or by battle?

Yes, you can. If the face down Malefic gets attacked it gets destroyed after damage calculation by the Malefic that was face up before the attack.

Actually you guys forgot a small loop in this rule. If u have a face up malefic on the field that is negated by something like skill drain you can still summon 1(/2 malefic’s). Malefic parallel gear does not have the summon restriction condition. Normally the field malefic would prevent its summon but with Skill drain you can summon it and use it to summon Malefic Paradox dragon.

Only works with Parallel Gear.