Re: Chain Material

**LuzCeleste** 2011-12-29, 18:31

I used this on my gem-banish fish deck and it made it Soooo consistent and so fast... I could pretty much thin out my entire deck with gem-fusion and then once I was done, since I used no resources from my hand, I could use fish and trades to get back my cards in my hand, coupled with obsidian this was more than a +1 and then I could use the rest of the banished fish/aqua for oh fish! Which negates monster effects and returns aqua/fish to deck and it makes the deck so fast I can pull things off quickly and efficiently and thin my deck like nothing and of course if I don't get chain material it sill works fine.

Just cause you're banishing monsters doesn't mean they are unusable ... Chain material makes gem-knights super fast and consistent, but it's not only used for OTK... Duel can carry on after and all those monsters in the Rfp can still be efficiently used.

**OverlordMMM** 2011-12-29, 19:21

Its one of those things where your deck has to be set-up for it to be useful. If not, then its not worth the space.

Its fairly balances aside from Fusion Gate. If anything its too balanced, actually (Not including Gate).

**Tsunayoshi** 2011-12-29, 19:36

OverlordMMM wrote:Its one of those things where your deck has to be set-up for it to be useful. If not, then its not worth the space.

Its fairly balances aside from Fusion Gate. If anything its too balanced, actually (Not including Gate).

This card breaks Gate. Gate isnt OP without Chain Material for free fusions.

Also making a card 'too balanced' doesnt stop it from being OP in the least, example Rescue Rabbit.

**OverlordMMM** 2011-12-30, 00:43

Both Gate and Chain Material are balanced cards. Its the combo together that is broken, but each individual card isn't.

I'm not saying against the fact the combo is broken, just pointing out that the card by itself isn't. Thats why I could see it limited before it gets banned.

**3E-hero neos** 2011-12-30, 07:10

Nebuwah wrote:Roids suck. Talk about good decks, not fail ones.

I'll be back in 5 minutes, then we can talk. Those 5 minutes I'm off making a working Roid deck that beats the crap outta you.

Srsly, why hate Roids?
And Chain Material + Vehicroid Connection Zone = troll in Roid decks.

**Saturn** 2011-12-30, 08:31

3E-hero neos wrote:
Nebuwah wrote:Roids suck. Talk about good decks, not fail ones.

I'll be back in 5 minutes, then we can talk. Those 5 minutes I'm off making a working Roid deck that beats the crap outta you.

Srsly, why hate Roids?
And Chain Material + Vehicroid Connection Zone = troll in Roid decks.

I don't hate roids, they're just really, really bad.

**lazerbeamx** 2011-12-30, 23:21

HarleyThomas wrote:It would appear I'm missing something, but the whole not being able to attack followed by losing a just summoned monster sounds kinda crap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhFfCmaaKXE
This is how Heroes use it.

**3E-hero neos** 2011-12-31, 08:06

Nebuwah wrote:
3E-hero neos wrote:
Nebuwah wrote:Roids suck. Talk about good decks, not fail ones.

I'll be back in 5 minutes, then we can talk. Those 5 minutes I'm off making a working Roid deck that beats the crap outta you.

Srsly, why hate Roids?
And Chain Material + Vehicroid Connection Zone = troll in Roid decks.

I don't hate roids, they're just really, really bad.

Once again, I can make Roids work, I did it before and I can do it again.

And Chain Material + Fusion Gate for pluses is awesome >:3.

**Saturn** 2011-12-31, 08:14

Except that it doesn't give you plusses, especially not in Roids. All it does is neutralize, nothing changes since they just blow up at the end phase. That's why Chain Material is meant for OTKs.

**darkreborn** 2012-01-01, 06:27

no it doesnt, Roids have a fusion card that prevent the fusion monster destruction by card effects

**kangtuji** 2012-01-01, 07:16

What happen if you use forbidden lance (the one who makes monster unaffected by other spell/trap) on fusion summon monster summoned by chain material

**Saturn** 2012-01-01, 07:17

Yeah, but he said "Fusion Gate + Chain Material for plusses" not "Vehicroid Connection Zone + Chain Material for plusses" and even then it would still just neutralize since you'd lose hand advantage and gain field presence.

**darkreborn** 2012-01-01, 07:23

but if you use Chain Material, you can fuse Monsters from your Deck and Grave to keep hand\field advantage

**Saturn** 2012-01-01, 07:51

No, because they cannot attack and get destroyed during the End Phase. That is why Chain Material is an OTK card. ( Electrum-Gustaph OTK/FTK, Blaze Feniz-Electrum OTK/FTK, etc ). Using a bad deck like Roids as an example as to why it's not an OTK card is a poor arguement.

**darkreborn** 2012-01-01, 09:53

Vehicroid Connection Zone+Chain Material+Barbaroid=4000 double attacked that negate Monsters effect that it battle (like Ha-Des) and I checked ruling, if you destroyed a Monster that can use its effect later in grave (Glow-Up, Spore, Necro Gardna) it wont work. all you have to do is skip 1 Battle Phase

**OverlordMMM** 2012-01-04, 15:31

Problem with that is Barbaroid isn't a Super Vehicroid, so you can't use it with the Spell. Otherwise that would be a great use for it.

**darkreborn** 2012-01-04, 16:04

why not? its a Machine Type Roid Monster

**Saturn** 2012-01-04, 16:08

darkreborn wrote:why not? its a Machine Type Roid Monster

Cos it's not a Vehicroid, herp derp.

**Miror B.** 2012-01-04, 16:32

Nebuwah wrote:
darkreborn wrote:why not? its a Machine Type Roid Monster

Cos it's not a Vehicroid, herp derp.

Or in other words, go read Vehicroid Connection Zone.

**012yArthur0** 2012-02-11, 10:51

Anyway, I'm trying Chain Material with Fusion Gate HEROs, and I have to say it is fun.

1.Fusion Gate + Chain Material = Banish 4 HEROs to make two shinings, let the two die and activate they effects for heavy plusles.

2.Fusion Gate + Chain Material = Banish Neos + Prisma for Shning, let him get destroyed and get Neos and Prisma. Summon prisma and use his effect to be a Rainbow Dragon, and fusion for Rainbow neos

3.Use Chain Material to use Rainbow Neos and use one of his three effects. Fusion him with another hero from hand or field without activating the Chain Material effect. Congrats, you just used one of the 3 deadliest effects a monster can have plus a fusion reade to attack.

**Ultimate lol** 2012-02-11, 11:06

012yArthur0 wrote:
1.Fusion Gate + Chain Material = Banish 4 HEROs to make two shinings, let the two die and activate they effects for heavy plusles.

Be sure to make game next turn though since you have 2 Shining less to use.

012yArthur0 wrote:
2.Fusion Gate + Chain Material = Banish Neos + Prisma for Shning, let him get destroyed and get Neos and Prisma. Summon prisma and use his effect to be a Rainbow Dragon, and fusion for Rainbow neos

Doesn't work, Prisma can't dump Rainbow since. has to do with the OCG text not saying rainbow dragon specifily but somthing like a rainbow monster or something. Kinda hard to explain. I suggest you look it up

**Phoenix Wright** 2012-02-11, 11:25

Yeah, on the OCG text of rainbow neos, the requirements are

"Elemental HERO Neos"+"An ultimate Gem God Monster"

or something along those lines

**012yArthur0** 2012-02-11, 20:30

Then even the normal fusion would be impossible since it isn't a proper name.

**FrozenFire** 2012-02-11, 21:26

Elemental Hero Neos + Rainbow Dragon or Rainbow Dark Dragon
looks specific to me. can you post the link of that OCG ruling. doesn't matter if it is English or Japanese Wink

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**T3RCX** 2012-02-11, 21:42

Chain Material - Page 2 RainbowNeos-JP-Anime

「Ｅ・ＨＥＲＯネオス」＋「究極宝玉神」と名のついたモンスター１体

Doesn't mention either dragon by name specifically. (The picture is from the anime so it's a bit different than the real card)

**012yArthur0** 2012-02-11, 22:49

So even a normal fusion with a polymerization fails?

And this artwork is pretty epic.

**Phoenix Wright** 2012-02-11, 23:09

If you try and make prisma rainbow dragon? Yes

**Ultimate lol** 2012-02-12, 03:01

The best you can do is have rainbow on hand and use prisma to make Neos.

**FrozenFire** 2012-02-12, 03:32

odd how the OCG and TCG card versions differ. TCG one is very specific Sad

. oh well, nice to know for the future.

**Ultimate lol** 2012-02-12, 03:47

You should see the rainbow dragon or rainbow dark dragon as 1 material as a whole. Looking at it like this it does not specifically say Rainbow dragon. Should work for the TCG mindset

**RareHunter** 2012-02-12, 04:36

nice card this card make my Aero-Shark usefull

Spoiler:

Chain Material is one of nice OTK card

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