bottomless traphole ruling another question

Ruf_Pup13 wrote:Well you cant activate monster reborn or Call of the haunted during Damage step so it doesnt Really matter there,
But Yes you CAN NOT Activate Bottomless Trap hole During The Damage step.

In the Damage Step, only certain cards and effects may be activated. These include:

Counter Trap Cards ("Solemn Judgment", "Dark Bribe").
Normal Trap Cards, Continuous Trap Cards, Quick-Play Spell Cards, and Quick Effect Monster Cards that alter the ATK and/or DEF of one or more monsters on the field ("Blast with Chain", "Rush Recklessly", "Castle Walls", "Reinforcements", "Shrink", "Honest"). The card must DIRECTLY affect ATK/DEF to be valid; you cannot activate Scapegoat during the Damage Step even if you control United We Stand, for example, because Scapegoat does not directly change the ATK/DEF on any monsters.
Mandatory Trigger Effects ("King Tiger Wanghu").
Flip Monster Effects (which are mandatory by nature) ("Cyber Jar").
Quick Effect Monster Cards that negate the activation of other cards or effects ("Herald of Perfection, "Horus the Black Flame Dragon LV8").
Any card whose text specifically says it may be activated during the Damage Step ("Nutrient Z", "Kuriboh").
Cards that do not meet the activation criteria, but whom Konami/UDE have stated may be activated in the Damage Step ("Null and Void").

vantagesp wrote:Yeah, as long as it has more than 1500 atk and wasn't summoned during the Damage Step. BTH is activated after the summon, so the effects of cards like Stardust and Jinzo can/will prevent it. Cards like Warning activate when the monster is summoned, so the effects of Stardust and Jinzo don't get a chance for their effects to work. This is why Warning doesn't work for Monsters SSed by Monster Reborn, it misses its timing. Warning wants to go before the summon, but since MR was the last thing to happen, it can't. BTH goes after the summon, so it can be activated.

Badass_Bunny wrote:

vantagesp wrote:Yeah, as long as it has more than 1500 atk and wasn't summoned during the Damage Step. BTH is activated after the summon, so the effects of cards like Stardust and Jinzo can/will prevent it. Cards like Warning activate when the monster is summoned, so the effects of Stardust and Jinzo don't get a chance for their effects to work. This is why Warning doesn't work for Monsters SSed by Monster Reborn, it misses its timing. Warning wants to go before the summon, but since MR was the last thing to happen, it can't. BTH goes after the summon, so it can be activated.

Should I begin explaining all the mistakes in this post?

Minor one: It can have 1500 also not over 1500.
Not so minor: Solemn Warning is activated before the monster is summoned.
Big One: Solemn Warning and Monster Reborn missing timing, where did that come from? Solemn Warning can negate Effect of monster Reborn to SS a monster

Ruf_Pup13 wrote:What he meant was that If they activate Monster reborn, And they dont respond with warning, Warning Can not negate the monster hitting the board. It will miss timing then, He will have to activate it when they use Monster reborn.