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Number 61: Volcasaurus vs. Gorz the Emissary of Darkness

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Solved Number 61: Volcasaurus vs. Gorz the Emissary of Darkness

Post  J. D. Guy 2011-09-16, 23:23

Hello.

The other day on DN, I was playing someone in a very close match.
I was using Rank 5 Xyz Number 61: Volcasaurus to destroy their
Trisula,then I would attack with another monster and win. However,
their field was empty and they played Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
which led to my defeat next turn.

So here is my question.

Number 61: Volcasaurus effect to destroy and damage happens at the same
time, so was my opponent in the right by playing Gorz? I ask because some
similar instances were the opponent takes damage while technicaly still
having a card on the field would prevent Gorz's effect from activating.

For the record, I admitted defeat, since part of me thought it was a legal
move. I just wanted some clarification and peace of mind.

Thnaks in advance to whoever answers.

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Post  Lovelace 2011-09-16, 23:49

I don't get it. Why would he not be able to summon gorz?
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Post  J. D. Guy 2011-09-16, 23:56

I just wanted to be 100% sure it was possible.

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Post  Lovelace 2011-09-16, 23:58

Oh, wait, you mean gorz was summoned from effect damage? I'm not sure on that
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Post  RandomKaos 2011-09-17, 00:03

I'm guessing since it got destroyed and the damage happens at the same time the trish is no longer on the field so your opponent could summon gorz
I think
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Post  Prince Vegeta 2011-09-17, 00:41

first destroy then damage Smile
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Post  KaousFaustXIII 2011-09-17, 04:35

Ring of Destruction wrote:If you control 1 monster and it is destroyed by "Ring of Destruction", you can activate the effect of "Gorz the Emissary of Darkness".

should work the same. kthx '')/
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Post  Zero2Hero 2011-09-17, 10:10

No, Gorz would not be able to summon himself, for Gorz requires you to control no monsters.
Gorz special summons himself in the damage step during damage calculation, sub part 4 of the damage step, your destroyed monster is sent to the grave at sub part 7 of the damage step, so until then, you'll still control the monster. So by the time your monster is sent to the grave, Gorz would've already missed his chance.
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Post  KaousFaustXIII 2011-09-17, 10:35

Emolga 0 wrote:No, Gorz would not be able to summon himself, for Gorz requires you to control no monsters.
Gorz special summons himself in the damage step during damage calculation, sub part 4 of the damage step, your destroyed monster is sent to the grave at sub part 7 of the damage step, so until then, you'll still control the monster. So by the time your monster is sent to the grave, Gorz would've already missed his chance.

No we're talking about the second effect of Gorz, the one that is triggered by Effect Damage


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Post  dest 2011-09-17, 10:36

emolga, read again...
gorz is not summoned due to battle damage

it is perfectly possible in that situation
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Post  Zero2Hero 2011-09-17, 11:11

Thank You Kaous and Dest for pointing that out.
In that case, you guys already answered it correctly.
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Post  J. D. Guy 2011-09-17, 21:55

Thanks everyone, I appreciate it. Very Happy

It was a good thing I admitted defeat then.

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