Grand Mole vs. Catastor

Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
If this card battles with your opponent's monster, you can return both monsters to their owner's hands at the start of the Damage Step (without damage calculation).

Ally of Justice Catastor
If this card battles a non-DARK monster, destroy that monster without applying damage calculation.

*edit* Just noticed on DN the effect is written a little different:

If this card attacks or is attacked by a non-DARK monster, destroy that monster at the start of the Damage Step (without damage calculation).

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How would this play out if they battled? Would Mole get destroyed or would Mole return to hand and Catastor return to Extra Deck, or would Mole get destroyed and Catastor return to Extra Deck... etc?

Mole wins. Castator's effect is mandatory, while Mole's is optional(look at the text). So Catastor's mandatory effect goes first on the chain, and Mole's optional effect is second on the chain. Backwards resolve bla bla bla, they both bounce and Catastor's effect resolves without effect cause Mole is no longer on the field to be destroyed.

This is like the 5th or 6th time (from what I remember) that I get this question in the past week.

When either of them attacks the other, then the effects activate. Assuming Mole would activate the effect, then the chain would be created like this:

Chain Link 1 - Catastor(mandatory)
Chain Link 2 - Grand Mole(optional)

Resolving backwards, Mole sends both monsters to the hand and Extra Deck respectively, then Catastor cannot destroy Mole because it is no longer on the field.

Mods please sticky this, I'm tired of this question already

I wonder why nobody check rulings before asking

Magicknight94 wrote:I wonder why nobody check rulings before asking

Probably to get their amount of posts up.

Magicknight94 wrote:I wonder why nobody check rulings before asking

I always check wikia, and run a search on the forum. It pulled up nothing so I made the thread.

Anyhow thanks for answering. It's appreciated.

Before posting here, after searching on wikia, do a search on google and look for pojo/tcgplayer threads, they usually point you in the right direction.

Nobody wants looks up a locked topic, even they do... they cann't replies it

What the points of locking threads ?

What is the point of what you posted, except going off-topic?

kangtuji wrote:Nobody wants looks up a locked topic, even they do... they cann't replies it

What the points of locking threads ?

The point is to not have some random person come into a thread and bump a 2 months old thread because his opinion is different.

You will understand how tiring it is to reply to a bumped thread once you start answering ... 30+ rulings a day.

2months old ? Its not even 2 hours old....

Its understandable if it was 2 months or the thread get merged, but locking in mere 2 hours or less
Oh wait.. members aren't allowed to post opinions here, because anything they said will rendeemed as off-topics

I never said that everything members say is deemed off-topic. What I did say though are the following:

1. This thread has served its purpose. When a thread serves its purpose, it becomes locked. Why? Because it has done what it had to do. What do you do with something you don't need anymore? You throw it away. We just keep them locked so that other members can find them.

2. I never said everything members say will be deemed off-topic. However, what you posted in the first place was clearly off-topic. Asking for the reasoning behind closing solved topics in a ruling thread? I don't think that sticks to the topic very much.

Just my 2 cents.

It's locked because the members has their question answered, otherwise, if the latest post is 3 days old and it's solved, it will be locked.

No, I don't think I am going off topics, I am still talking about this whole topics and I was opinioning the reasoning why same thread are keeps poping ups.
Because they cann't replies in old thread if they have different opinion / question / situation. Yet you prejudice we have same extact situation.

With these locked thread while you cann't replies, it became a traps for members, either stalemate in situation:

A) Make new thread (with same card thread)
B) Not make new thread (with same card thread)

Either way will makes mods looked down on members

In same time, you guys didn't want answer same question again, but without pointing why, and "make stickies".

back to stalemate again, you guys tell members to search, but they cann't replies, and then they make new thread even its still relevant to old one, and the circles are repeated again.

What I said is locking topic doesn't make it better, thus leading you want make a stickies for that. I dunno how much stickies will happen it that happen.

But again, just my opinion

Addition :
The thread already solved from 2'nd or 3'rd posts. So "off-topic" after those ('4th post) is also pointless, so what the point starting '4th post if you ask me

just another 2 cents

And why do you care about that? Members want a new question, they make a new thread. If we get a lot of rulings regarding the same card, we will make a topic which summarizes all the rulings asked about it here.

Why I care ?
Because I am playing this game, and quite attached for it ?

Make a topic which summarizes all the rulings asked here is ok, but that not the point for 4'th post and after, You seem doesn' get it why new member spamming rulings with new thread. which I already explained why.

(Did I said spam ? I think mod have different opinions about spams, because personally I do have record with accused spam)

just plese lock the thread so this ruling will be here for everyone to see not to reply to a two-month old thread

By locking the thread, how do you possible to everyone seeing this thread because it will not bumped up

And second this thrad not even two-month old

Do you even reading the whole thread ? Or just trolling ?