Re: Confirmed new banlist

**Roxzen** 2011-08-16, 12:27

Xander Royce wrote:
Roxzen wrote:Eh, TCG is a different game now. I wouldn't be surprised if TCG list have Sangan banned and Tengu semi-ed.

Doesn't work like that. Konami deals with all things to do with the Ban List now, and since they don't have Tengu, Tengu won't be hit. Sangan won't be hit either. Cba to explain why, but you should already know why.

>Ignition priority not abolished.
>Conflicting Xyz ruling.

TCG have never deviated far from OCG until now. I'm not saying that it will, but there are chances of that happening. High possibility it won't, but chances are there.

Four Sangan is nasty, don't you think?

**CaiusTSR** 2011-08-16, 12:50

I love this list.
I may not agree with Smoke Signal being a 1 they should have put it at 2 and JD needed to stay at 2 as well. I play LS and shit gets real when JD hits the field. Having 3 is just to much. The 4 cards that are now gone and Formula to 1 makes me glad.

**dest** 2011-08-16, 12:51

With 4 Spells that destroy backrow it'll be the time to dig up an old friend perhaps.

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-08-16, 12:52

Already ahead of you.

**ineedbettercards** 2011-08-16, 12:54

with pot of avarice at 1. it makes it that much harder to recycle my tengus and stuff.
with heavy storm at 1 makes it that much harder to create a antimeta deck and that much easier to run something that explodes the field.
The only thing i like about the ban list is royal oppression banned.

Btw Jd at 3 doesnt help lightsworns its charge and lumina that helps them.

**Pot of Profanity** 2011-08-16, 13:04

JD at 3 isn't that big of a deal, actually.
LS could get those two JD's already fairly easily most of them time. Thank goodness Charge isn't back to two - sh*t would get real.

I cannot understand why they brought back BLS. Card is too broke.
Offering really should have been touched. OGadgets isn't allowed to exist. Such massive Herp Derpness.
I like Librarian, PoA and Formula at 1. A big "F#$k off" to all decks abusing those cards.

**Badass_Bunny** 2011-08-16, 13:08

ineedbettercards wrote:with pot of avarice at 1. it makes it that much harder to recycle my tengus and stuff.
with heavy storm at 1 makes it that much harder to create a antimeta deck and that much easier to run something that explodes the field.
The only thing i like about the ban list is royal oppression banned.

Btw Jd at 3 doesnt help lightsworns its charge and lumina that helps them.

I'm starting to think on using Transmigration Prophecy to return Tengus to deck

**CaiusTSR** 2011-08-16, 13:22

Oh hey I didn't see OU. Why isn't OU on the list...

**LilSno** 2011-08-16, 13:27

Ouch, Formula Synchron & Avarice x 1. IMO, they should be kept at 2.

Why they're not banned Gate of the Six ? The very problem of red blue loop...
1 Shien smoke signal... let's see, there's still reinforcement, dojo, and Aestheticism of the Six.

Fishborg Blaster, Water deck moving towards Xyz .

Mind Master, no more infinite draw, burn, and summon ~ Should I said "Yes!!" since I never actually use it ?

It is good to know TG Hyper Librarian is not banned because TG deck cannot live without it~ while ironically another deck gain more benefit using it, more than the TG deck itself.

Mystical, Icarus, and Overload ~ I don't see the reason for them to be limited before. But this installment also increase the number of Swords of Revealing Light and Gravity Bind. Say hello to stall decks... Watt What ?

The problem for Tengu, Ultimate Offering, Gadgets, or even two copies of Summoner Monk is certainly to promote Xyz I suppose. While they're limiting the capability of Synchro.

**XIVcaliber** 2011-08-16, 13:29

Transmigration Prophecy would actually work really well, because it's chainable and you can do battle phase nonsense...

But, all in all, I like this list. The Plant nerfs needed to happen, the Sam nerfs needed to happen, and etc. I'm sad that Formulanarch is officially useless, because I run the deck, but at least I can put the Caius into something else...hmm...Twilight! We're going to need to side a lot of Kycoo, Imperial Iron Wall, and Chaos Hunter, but I think this next format will be manageable, especially with MST at 3 and Storm coming back. With this list, the TCG has no choice but to kill ignition priority...if they don't, Tewart needs to be tarred and feathered. And then lynched. But enough of that.

JD at three is okay, but at least they didn't get their Limited cards back, AKA Charge and Lumina. BLS is an incredibly stupid card, but with Veiler being so popular, most of the time it'll just be a 3500 beater, and then you can get rid of it some other way.

I was never expecting Gravity Bind to go up to three. This means yugiohs for my Wind-Up deck that spams Xyz monsters. I saw D-Draw to two coming, same thing with Trunade being banned...it has some problems, no doubt, but it's an improvement from where we were.

**CaiusTSR** 2011-08-16, 13:36

So what are you guys going to take out for that 3rd MST? Or are you going to keep it at 2 and replace Trunade with Heavy?

**OverlordMMM** 2011-08-16, 13:37

So much destruction with this upcoming format. Heavy Storm + 3 MST. I think stall/burn decks might use Prohibition at 3 just for MST now.

I dunno about anyone else, but I'm looking forward to tinkering with Primal Seed. Necromill Exodia loop anyone? lmao

**XIVcaliber** 2011-08-16, 13:38

I'll take my second Pot out for my third MST, I dunno what you're so confused about.

**LilSno** 2011-08-16, 13:43

CaiusTSR wrote:So what are you guys going to take out for that 3rd MST? Or are you going to keep it at 2 and replace Trunade with Heavy?

I never bring 3 MSTs before though. At most cases it give me bad hands. Even my latest decks purposely designed without it. I don't like 1 card for 1 fashion.

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-08-16, 13:48

I actually forgot Primal Seed was on the Limited list.

Looks like I'll be having some fun in BaniSharks using that card. Only problem would be the use of LIGHT-Attribute Monsters and DARK-Attributes, especially since BaniSharks only have Skull Krakken, Number 20, and Black Ray Lancer to fit the bill. =/

**Sheodon** 2011-08-16, 13:49

This list is one of the best ones created ever. Also, it seems that my custom list was really close to the reality.

And I need to say again: all hail to OCG! Still OCG is way more balanced than the TCG. Smile

And now for me, they are two bit different games with a lots of different meta decks. (OCG: no prior, no tengu and no exceed ruling - TCG: prior, tengu and gay "xyz" ruling.)

P.S.: I really love how Konami made a heavy S/T hate list after the current metagame.

**XIVcaliber** 2011-08-16, 13:49

Johnny Raptor wrote:I actually forgot Primal Seed was on the Limited list.

Looks like I'll be having some fun in BaniSharks using that card. Only problem would be the use of LIGHT-Attribute Monsters and DARK-Attributes, especially since BaniSharks only have Skull Krakken, Number 20, and Black Ray Lancer to fit the bill. =/

Servant of Catabolism.

Do it. Be a pro.

**CaiusTSR** 2011-08-16, 13:58

What was the main difference from the OCG and TCG last banlist?

**XIVcaliber** 2011-08-16, 14:00

CaiusTSR wrote:What was the main difference from the OCE and TCG last banlist?

Trishula.

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-08-16, 14:02

Watch we as the TCG will get different changes to the list. Do they really want to keep Sangan around now that you can 'run' 4 of it, and then turn it into Black Luster Solider after searching Honest? >_>

**CaiusTSR** 2011-08-16, 14:07

Johnny Raptor wrote:Watch we as the TCG will get different changes to the list. Do they really want to keep Sangan around now that you can 'run' 4 of it, and then turn it into Black Luster Solider after searching Honest? >_>

STOP SAYING THINGS THAT WILL GET SANGAN BANNED T_T

Nothing to see here Konami move along.

**KaousFaustXIII** 2011-08-16, 14:52

summon JD
nuke
summon 2 more JD
summon DAD for lulz
summon BLS for more lulz
Sad

**XIVcaliber** 2011-08-16, 14:58

Like I said before, the TCG has absolutely no choice but to take priority away, or else this will be a 1-deck format. If they get rid of it, then hooray, balance! (for the most part, until they get rid of the Xyz ruling, then more balance!)

**maskedhero303** 2011-08-16, 15:03

New list seemms okay, seems I can't just go and set 3-4 cards now. Also I wasn't into yugioh when chaos emperor dragon and BLS were not on the list, it seemed reasonable to ban emperor dragon though, BLS could of stayed at one though. Its great that Hyber librarian and formula got limited,no more decks that abuse these 2. Also at least we can handle sams now,my only real problem with them was that they could bust out shi en too much, now they only have one and can't search out so fast now they'll be easy to beat.

**Chiaki** 2011-08-16, 15:22

BLS back makes me mad. I see no reason for it apart from them wanting to sell Gold Series Fail -- I mean 4.

**Xander Royce** 2011-08-16, 15:24

Johnny Raptor wrote:Watch we as the TCG will get different changes to the list. Do they really want to keep Sangan around now that you can 'run' 4 of it, and then turn it into Black Luster Solider after searching Honest? >_>

When will you people understand that the TCG and OCG will not get seperate Ban Lists? Sangan will not get banned in the TCG because people here use the Xyz the wrong way. Basically, until OCG gets Tour Guide, Sangan will not be hit, and may not even be hit because Tour Guide is the main problem here, not Sangan.

**Seraphim2064** 2011-08-16, 15:29

FINALLY hes back !!!!
The reason I left yugioh long time ago was because he was ban now hes back my life is complete again, I love you

Now to put him in my counter fairies deck Twisted Evil

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**Kreft** 2011-08-16, 16:09

Why in the holy Triforce was Royal Oppression banned?? That card was GOOD for the game. It did it's job and was one of the easiest cards to deal with (herp derp chain MST and opponent just wasted 800 lifepoints.) This list is eh ok I guess. But some things about it really are silly.

**Chiaki** 2011-08-16, 16:36

This will now be the format of Twilight, with BLS calling all the shots.

**XIVcaliber** 2011-08-16, 17:08

BLS is manageable with Veiler at three and priority gone in the OCG. The TCG is a different story, obviously, and I'm probably going to say this many times today; the TCG can't keep priority around with a format of JD at three, Sorc at three, and BLS back in the game. If they keep it, I'm probably going to judge at regionals, not play there...

**tommyboy32211** 2011-08-16, 17:10

this is not our offical ban list, this is the ban list for the OCG not the TCG, expect somethings to be very different, remember the game over there is not the way it is over here

**Goddess nX** 2011-08-16, 17:12

Still its similar. I dont see any major changes from OCG to TCG

**Badass_Bunny** 2011-08-16, 17:21

I'm seriously going to start using Baseball bat on anyone else who keeps ranting how this is OCG and not TCG banlist. Deal with it people if separate banlist were to happen they would have announced it by now.

**nsanejokr** 2011-08-16, 17:28

This is going to be a hilarious format where you can't just set one card, because it'll get destroyed by MST. However, you can't set more than one, because of Storm.

**Adept VantageSP** 2011-08-16, 17:31

nsanejokr wrote:This is going to be a hilarious format where you can't just set one card, because it'll get destroyed by MST. However, you can't set more than one, because of Storm.

Lol yeah, and then even with Starlight Road you run the risk of it getting MSTed.

**KaousFaustXIII** 2011-08-16, 17:42

Dust Tornado wrote:What's gonna happen to me now?

**Badass_Bunny** 2011-08-16, 17:51

Dust Tornado wrote:What's gonna happen to me now?

Jinzo wrote:
Yeah welcome to the club...

**SillyDude** 2011-08-16, 18:34

well i guess you can expect compulsories and raigeki breaks to be run often (after all you can just activate them at anytime if your opponent tries to MST)

**Kreft** 2011-08-16, 18:35

SillyDude wrote:well i guess you can expect compulsories and raigeki breaks to be run often (after all you can just activate them at anytime if your opponent tries to MST)

I don't know about that but I might actually run threatening roars now. Compulse was always a good card. Raigeki Break is usually always a -1 though.

**XIVcaliber** 2011-08-16, 18:51

Imperial Custom wrote:Aw, man, this is gonna be a great year...

Call of the Haunted wrote:You said it, boss!

Gravity Bind wrote:No one can kill us now!

**KaousFaustXIII** 2011-08-16, 21:11

what happened to the image links?

**{EX} TheVoid** 2011-08-16, 22:24

Ultimate lol wrote:http://imepic.jp/20110816/689150
http://imepic.jp/20110816/670080

New Bans:

Fishborg Blaster
W00t. Bye bye Cloudian Quasar T_T
Mind Master
W00t. Bye bye psychics... they just got kicked in the nuts.
Giant Trunade
Another good ban!
Royal Oppression
...Wut... They want UO Gadgets to take over?

New Limiteds:

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
.........Wut?
Legendary Six Samurai - Shi En
Step in the right track. Maybe now Six Sams wont be all "ROAR I IS CONTROLLING THE FIELD BEFORE YOU CAN GO
T.G. Hyper Librarian
Thank god... no more Synchro 10 times and have 10 cards in hand
Debris Dragon
Saw this coming
Formula Synchron
again saw this coming
Lonefire Blossom
Again saw this coming
Heavy Storm
This ALMOST makes up for BLS limit
Primal Seed
As situational as this card is... I didnt imagine it having much play as it is. However I can see why they hit it. Doesnt make up for BLS though.
Shien's Smoke Signal
Yes hit the SS RotA!
Pot of Avarice
This makes me sadface but its worth it

New Semi-Limiteds:

Summoner Monk
Im... unsure on this one
Tragoedia
Still wont see much play. Actually with BLS back it might.
Necro Gardna
Do they want Twilight to decimate?
Dewloren, Tiger King of the Ice Barrier
Trish loop has been raped and left for dead xD
Destiny Draw
I really think this should be at 3... but its a start
Swords of Revealing Light
Umm... yea this could be fine. Just makes ExoStall and StallBurn better.
Mind Crush
I can haz kill gay clownz now?
Call Of The Haunted
...Lemme get this straight... BLS... Reborn... 2 CotH... LS format anyone?

New Unlimiteds:

Judgment Dragon
..............
Spirit Reaper
If this is at 3 why is Marshy at 1?
Overload Fusion
JinzOTK/Chimeratech OTK likes this
Mystical Space Typhoon
One for one cards are good at 3.
Megamorph
Not sure... probably wont see play so who cares.
Gravity Bind
This supposed to be the new Oppression to stop DAD, Synchros, JD, and BLS?
Icarus Attack
YAY BLACKWING LOVE. Maybe next format...

(Dark Evangel from pojo for the translation)

Reminder that this is from an OCG magazine so trish is already on 1 there.
List is confirmed.

**nsanejokr** 2011-08-16, 22:31

I'll just say I know that we won't have a different ban list, but we really do need one. Considering we have a couple major mechanical differences we may as well have a different ban list as well.

Either way, I'll probably try to use as few Traps as possible this format. Depending on them is now incredibly unreliable.

**{EX} TheVoid** 2011-08-16, 22:32

^We might get TCG exclusive banlist hits... thought doubtable.

**J. D. Guy** 2011-08-16, 22:44

So this is the new Ban List that will soon come into effect.

Well, it looks like my love/hate relationship with Heavy Storm
shall continue anew. Sad

Time do like the 1 poster said
and bust out that Judgement of Anubis. So thats something to look
forword to.

I like how Gravity Bind will be at three to encourage
Xyz use. And now I can legally play Black Luster Soldier
Envoy of the End.

**MultiJazzBeat** 2011-08-16, 22:51

Trap heavy decks are now.... DEAD!
Yay!

**damyou321** 2011-08-16, 23:02

this will changed everything in the game!!!

**Johnny Raptor** 2011-08-16, 23:22

nsanejokr wrote:I'll just say I know that we won't have a different ban list, but we really do need one. Considering we have a couple major mechanical differences we may as well have a different ban list as well.

Either way, I'll probably try to use as few Traps as possible this format. Depending on them is now incredibly unreliable.

I'm pretty sure we're able to. Has everyone forgotten the Emergency Semi-Limit on Allure of Darkness while it was just a TCG Exclusive? o_o

I mean, it's a vague example and it happened only once, but it's not like it can't happen again if the format gets a little too nutty.

**{EX} TheVoid** 2011-08-16, 23:53

Top tiers:

TWILIGHT
Dark World XYZ
UO Gadget XYZ
Chaos

**CaiusTSR** 2011-08-16, 23:59

I love how 1 banlist can literally dethrone top tier decks.

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